Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

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Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by daveB » 04 Jul 2019 17:32

I've received the following weak signal on 106.6MHz, before it was wiped out by a German station fading in.

https://app.box.com/s/isrr2nepfur1lzvaizjgq15a4cu6ktxr

At the same time Radio Maryja was trying to come through on 106.8 which faded up at 0458-0459 UTC before being lost under a German station. So I am hoping 106.6 is also Poland.

The reception is very weak, I can't make out the language - but 30 seconds in there is a very distinctive 'jingle' or interval signature tune, which I'm hoping someone will recognise.

I've seen the amazing logs of the Polish reception - for info I am located between Wrotham and Dover on the North Kent coast. [JO01JI

Still hoping to find more signals , but I was interrupted by extensive Spe openings on 2nd and 3rd July.
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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by pe1etr » 04 Jul 2019 17:59

Hello Dave,
I heard two songs back-to-back. The first one is Dutch or German, the second is English.
What you think is a jingle is the intro to the second song.

Peter

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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by daveB » 04 Jul 2019 20:36

Thanks for the input Peter - but I should have included more of the second song - which I've identified as "The Way It Is" by Celon Dion. It fades in over the 'jingle' partway through the song just before the words "but it's plain to see". It is 2 min 4 seconds to the end of the song and Antenne Brandenberg identified itself - so it has faded in just under halfway through the track.
So I'm still of the view the jingle is a station id - and it is frustrating because I think I've heard before.
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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by PFM907 » 04 Jul 2019 20:51

The pop music you heard at the end can be indeed verified by Antenne Brandenburg according to their playlist:
Playlist

Musikrecherche der letzten 14 Tage:

In einzelnen Sendungen wird die Musik direkt von CD abgespielt. Diese Titel sind nicht im Sendeplan hinterlegt und können daher leider nicht angezeigt werden.

Datum Zeit Interpret Titel
27.06.2019 06:56 Celine Dion That's The Way It Is
This is a typical german hitradio song. Guess you wont hear this in any other country, not even in France because it is in english.
Good catch regarding the distance!

The interval signal or whatever it is, seems to be another station maybe from 106.5 or 106.7 MHz, it sounds somewhat distorted in comparison to the very clear german station. Unfortunately, I do not know this one.

If it was on 106.6 FM an option would be Jedynka from Bydgoszcz/ Trzeciewiec.

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Post by daveB » 04 Jul 2019 21:41

Hi, definitely on 106.6 - and I forgot to mention this was using SDR# with a bandwidth around 65 kHz so the signal could be clearly separated from the signals either side. That will contribute to distortion however. 106.5 MHz only had a very weak signal and 106.7 was WDR Eins Live at RDS level with voice adverts.

After Radyo Maryja (POL) on 106.8 my best catch was WDR Eins Live on 107.3 MHz with a pi code. Tx is located at Holzminden [nds] HöxterIt, the distance is 605 km, and is only 0.5 kW. I also got Radio Hochstift from the same locatio on 104.8 MHz.

Maybe Konrad in Poland can say if the 'jingle' is from Polskie Radio Jedynka.
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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by Konrad » 04 Jul 2019 23:04

Hey Dave.

I can't hear any jingle that you mentioned. It sounds more like a (strange) song.
However, Polish Radio has recently changed their jingle sound compositions.

It's hard to tell something about this audio snippet at the moment.
I will pass this link to other DXers in Poland and we will try to solve this puzzle. Stay tuned.

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Post by daveB » 05 Jul 2019 12:45

Hi Konrad,
Thanks for you reply - on the original link the 'jingle' is 15 seconds long starting at 36 seconds. But I have isolated it and looped it five times in the attached link.

https://app.box.com/s/ffb7wjhm4aljpxadby6iimuyirw2liph

It sounds like an interval signal and if Antenne Brandenberg hadn't come up over the programme I would have expected to hear the run in into an hourly news programme.

So if you would be kind enough to listen to the new link and pass it on, any comments would be welcome. And anyone else.

Having turned it into a loop it now reminds me of a the sort of signal that used to go out on the shortwave broadcast bands when an actual programme was not being transmitted - to hold open the frequency. But where have I heard it before??
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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by Konrad » 10 Jul 2019 13:55

This is definitely not Poland. I asked my friend at Polskie Radio and according to the playlist of PR1 a block of advertisements was being broadcast between 06:54 and 06:57 LT (i.e. 0454-0457 UTC).

Personally I don't know this sound, but Maciek says that it reminds him a jingle of Ukrainian Radio. Also, the first fragment of this audio snippet seems to contain Russian-sounding song…

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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by daveB » 13 Jul 2019 00:30

Thanks for the feedback Konrad. It will probably remain a mystery. I have noted the following stations on 106.6 MHz that would be possible with the Tropo ducting that was present on 27th June 2019 - based on reception of low power stations from Wrotham and Dover that you received. (I am 14 kw east of Wrotham , 50 km west of Dover).

BLR Radio Mir 4.3 kW 1595 km
RUS Rosskiy Kray 2.5 kW - 1448 km if it is now on air (FMList says it is'planned'0
POL Radio Eska 5 kW - 992 km
SVK Radio Jemme 10 kw - 1202 km
LTU Radio M-1 4 kw - 1578 km

Ukraine is too far away - 1650 km

I found no other unusual stations on my recordings that spanned 99.6 - 107.9 MHz. Germany was on nearly every frequency including stations from 200 watts to 500 watts up to 600 km away - the band was crowded!

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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by Lucas | TransistorFR » 14 Jul 2019 16:49

Hey David,

I'm not able to help to identify the station you received unfortunately, but I can confirm the singer we can hear in the last song on your recording is Céline Dion for sure. I totally recognize her voice and Shazam detects "That's The Way It Is" as PFM907 said.
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Re: Unid 'jingle' 27 June 2019 0456 UTC - Poland??

Post by daveB » 15 Jul 2019 11:47

Thanks Lucas,
That is Antenne Brandenberg coming in over the top of the "interval signal". Antenne Brandenberg comes up quite well in the following minutes - which itself is nice DX.
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