XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

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XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 27 May 2019 08:23

https://youtu.be/So-VZD1xzvk
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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by Franco Martelli » 27 May 2019 21:10

Hello Peter, I am interested in this item for listening into OIRT band through SpE.
Can I ask you how you can switch from 87.5-108 Mhz to 64-108 Mhz mode into D-808? Is it easy or at least well explained into the booklet?
And how is the sensitivity into OIRT band, compared to some other portable radios as PL-660 or PL-398?

(lovely flip-flops though :D)
Rxs: Degen DE-1103, Sangean ATS-909, and the newcomer Tecsun PL-398 MP

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 28 May 2019 08:05

Franco Martelli wrote:
27 May 2019 21:10
Hello Peter, I am interested in this item for listening into OIRT band through SpE.
Can I ask you how you can switch from 87.5-108 Mhz to 64-108 Mhz mode into D-808? Is it easy or at least well explained into the booklet?
And how is the sensitivity into OIRT band, compared to some other portable radios as PL-660 or PL-398?

(lovely flip-flops though :D)
Hello Franco,
Yes it is easy to switch FM ranges on the D-808, it is in the booklet, it even includes Italian.
No OIRT reception here since I collected the radio.
I bought the flipflops in Bangkok

Peter

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by Franco Martelli » 28 May 2019 12:29

pe1etr wrote:
28 May 2019 08:05
Franco Martelli wrote:
27 May 2019 21:10
Hello Peter, I am interested in this item for listening into OIRT band through SpE.
Can I ask you how you can switch from 87.5-108 Mhz to 64-108 Mhz mode into D-808? Is it easy or at least well explained into the booklet?
And how is the sensitivity into OIRT band, compared to some other portable radios as PL-660 or PL-398?

(lovely flip-flops though :D)
Hello Franco,
Yes it is easy to switch FM ranges on the D-808, it is in the booklet, it even includes Italian.
No OIRT reception here since I collected the radio.
I bought the flipflops in Bangkok

Peter
I forgot to ask you before which are the steps in switch frequencies with the tuning knob.
Thank you Peter, anyway, I hope that will test soon its OIRT reception.
Rxs: Degen DE-1103, Sangean ATS-909, and the newcomer Tecsun PL-398 MP

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 28 May 2019 14:09

Franco Martelli wrote:
28 May 2019 12:29
pe1etr wrote:
28 May 2019 08:05
Franco Martelli wrote:
27 May 2019 21:10

Peter
I forgot to ask you before which are the steps in switch frequencies with the tuning knob.
Thank you Peter, anyway, I hope that will test soon its OIRT reception.
Hello Franco, On FM, including OIRT, the tuning steps are 10kHz and 100 kHz. You select them by pushing in the tuning knob.
I'll compare the D-808 and Tecsun PL398MP next time I get OIRT reception.
Regards
Peter

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by Franco Martelli » 28 May 2019 19:59

Thank you Peter for the information.
Rxs: Degen DE-1103, Sangean ATS-909, and the newcomer Tecsun PL-398 MP

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 28 May 2019 20:00

Franco Martelli wrote:
28 May 2019 19:59
Thank you Peter for the information.
You're welcome Franco

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by AMDXHUN » 29 May 2019 11:14

Kossuth Rádió 90.2 at 08:00 :))

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 29 May 2019 11:36

AMDXHUN wrote:
29 May 2019 11:14
Kossuth Rádió 90.2 at 08:00 :))
Thanks

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by KPC850 » 31 May 2019 10:10

pe1etr wrote:
28 May 2019 08:05
Franco Martelli wrote:
27 May 2019 21:10
Hello Peter, I am interested in this item for listening into OIRT band through SpE.
Can I ask you how you can switch from 87.5-108 Mhz to 64-108 Mhz mode into D808 ? Is it easy or at least well explained into the booklet?
And how is the sensitivity into OIRT band, compared to some other portable radios as PL-660 or PL-398?

(lovely flip-flops though :D)
Hello Franco,
Yes it is easy to switch FM ranges on the D-808, it is in the booklet, it even includes Italian.
No OIRT reception here since I collected the radio.
I bought the flipflops in Bangkok

Peter
With the radio off, just hold the FM button for a second or so and the lower part of the display will flash with lowest FM frequency. Then without delay press the FM button to change to the range you want ( 64.0 , 87.5 , 87.0, 76.0, - in all cases up to 108).

Whilst it has worldwide FM support, they forgot complete worldwide MW support though, 9kHz steps mode only go up to 1620, above 1620 is locked out even though Australia is 9kHz steps but has AM stations up to 1701 kHz . Another example Japan (also 9kHz) uses 1629 kHz.
(You can though change to 10kHz steps mode and key in the frequency)

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 09 Jun 2019 12:46

Hello Franco,
I just had my first OIRT FM reception since teceiving the D-808. Just to confirm the XHDATA D-808 works fine on the OIRT FM band. The Tecsun PL-398MP is slightly better on OIRT, but the longer whip and narrower bandwidth could account for that. I'll posts some videos later.

Peter
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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 09 Jun 2019 14:43

Video of Radio Brest, Belarus via Es.
https://youtu.be/xp3SemX3hq0

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by Franco Martelli » 14 Jun 2019 14:34

Hello Peter, I am sorry but I had lost your answers into the daily flow of posts.

The PL-398 seems fitting to replace for OIRT-dxing my modified ATS 909, exausted after more than 10 years of use; even if the bandwith seems narrow, I don't dare to hope that it will be good also for dxing between 87.5 and 108 Mhz (because of my homeland's absolutely messy Band 2), but who knows.....?

Thank you for your explanations.
Rxs: Degen DE-1103, Sangean ATS-909, and the newcomer Tecsun PL-398 MP

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 14 Jun 2019 16:34

Franco Martelli wrote:
14 Jun 2019 14:34
Hello Peter, I am sorry but I had lost your answers into the daily flow of posts.

The PL-398 seems fitting to replace for OIRT-dxing my modified ATS 909, exausted after more than 10 years of use; even if the bandwith seems narrow, I don't dare to hope that it will be good also for dxing between 87.5 and 108 Mhz (because of my homeland's absolutely messy Band 2), but who knows.....?

Thank you for your explanations.
Hello Franco,
The bandwidth of the PL-398MP being narrower than that of the XHDATA D-808 is an advantage. :)
A narrow IF bandwidth is good for FMDX, both OIRT and CCIR. Tecsun DSP radios don't overload easily. I used my other Tecsun DSP radios in areas with strong signals without problems.

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by Franco Martelli » 15 Jun 2019 15:41

pe1etr wrote:
14 Jun 2019 16:34
Franco Martelli wrote:
14 Jun 2019 14:34
Hello Peter, I am sorry but I had lost your answers into the daily flow of posts.

The PL-398 seems fitting to replace for OIRT-dxing my modified ATS 909, exausted after more than 10 years of use; even if the bandwith seems narrow, I don't dare to hope that it will be good also for dxing between 87.5 and 108 Mhz (because of my homeland's absolutely messy Band 2), but who knows.....?

Thank you for your explanations.
Hello Franco,
The bandwidth of the PL-398MP being narrower than that of the XHDATA D-808 is an advantage. :)
A narrow IF bandwidth is good for FMDX, both OIRT and CCIR. Tecsun DSP radios don't overload easily. I used my other Tecsun DSP radios in areas with strong signals without problems.

Peter
Hello Peter, according to Amazon, next wednesday in the afternoon I'll be able to compare this Tecsun with my modified Degen DE 1103 (filters 110+80). ;)
I really hope that the newcomer could amaze me.
Rxs: Degen DE-1103, Sangean ATS-909, and the newcomer Tecsun PL-398 MP

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 15 Jun 2019 18:05

Franco Martelli wrote:
15 Jun 2019 15:41


Hello Peter, according to Amazon, next wednesday in the afternoon I'll be able to compare this Tecsun with my modified Degen DE 1103 (filters 110+80). ;)
I really hope that the newcomer could amaze me.
Hello Franco
I hope you get some OIRT FM Es to compare your radios.
The old PLL Degen with modified filters is good, but more prone to overload than the Tecsun.

Peter

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by Franco Martelli » 24 Jun 2019 07:53

I have unboxed my new PL 398 MP and the first impressions are good.

Controls and switches are very rational and intuitive, the included earphones are good enough and the clothed case is good for a cheap receiver.
PL 398 can also be used as a speaker for the music I have into my phone (and it's a very useful function, while I think I will never test it as a mp3 player as it can be possible to do anyway).

It's very sensitive on MW and it seems sensitive also on SW, but -sorry- my heart breaks each time I switch to SW, because I always remember the plenty of sounds, voices, informations that I was used to listen in the 80s or 90s in those bands, compared to the infinite sadness of present shortwaves... :cry:
The possibility to switch very easily (into MW or SW) between several different bandwidths is very useful for a better reception.

Well, for Band 2, the filters of are way too large for dxing (in our pot of Italian Soup :twisted: ) but anyway PL 398 can be a confortable solution for listening to music when I am in the shower :) .

I am waiting for a opening in OIRT band to test her its performances during Es openings (and OIRT is the main reason I've decided to buy it).

Just one question: I can not find the way to go into LW band.
In lack of a LW button, I press on AM button to go to medium waves, but nothing happens if I try to enter a frequency like 216 kHz........
Rxs: Degen DE-1103, Sangean ATS-909, and the newcomer Tecsun PL-398 MP

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 25 Jun 2019 22:51

Hello Franco,
It is not clear from the manual how to turn Long Wave on (or off).
With the radio off, press and hold the AM button. If the display shows LW and On, then LW is switched on. If it shows LW and Off, then release the AM button, then press and hold the AM button again.

The manual mentions the MW/LW button, which exists on the PL-390, on the PL-398 MP, it is labelled AM.

With the radio on, the AM button toggles MW and LW, only when LW has already been switched on
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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by Franco Martelli » 26 Jun 2019 11:58

pe1etr wrote:
25 Jun 2019 22:51
Hello Franco,
It is not clear from the manual how to turn Long Wave on (or off).
With the radio off, press and hold the AM button. If the display shows LW and On, then LW is switched on. If it shows LW and Off, then release the AM button, then press and hold the AM button again.

The manual mentions the MW/LW button, which exists on the PL-390, on the PL-398 MP, it is labelled AM.

With the radio on, the AM button toggles MW and LW, only when LW has already been switched on
Peter
Very interesting: the possibility reception of LW is treated like a "preliminary setting" (for example: the choice between 9 or 10 kHz steps).
I've followed your suggestion and now it's ok (even if, in the daytime, after the s/off of French 162 kHz and the reduction of power on 216, there is not much to listen).

Thank you ;)
Rxs: Degen DE-1103, Sangean ATS-909, and the newcomer Tecsun PL-398 MP

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Re: XHDATA D-808 unboxing includes Es

Post by pe1etr » 26 Jun 2019 12:17

You're welcome Franco.
Peter

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