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German MW & LW Transmitters to close

Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 30 Dec 2014 13:43

Posted by Peter Kruse & Jens Søndergaard on our SkywavesDX page on Facebook:

In Mid-January 2015 NDR will close all their Mediumwave-Transmitters on
702 Flensburg (7,5 kW)
792 Lingen (5,0 kW)
828 Hannover (19,0 kW)
972 Hamburg (100,0 kW)

German longwave transmitters to close by 31.12.2014
153 kHz : Deutschlandfunk, Donebach (500 kW),
177 kHz : Deutschlandradio, Oranienburg (500 kW)
207 kHz : Deutschlandfunk, Aholming (500 kW)

The mediumwave transmitters of Deutschlandfunk will close at the end of next year. That will be on the 31.12.2015.
549 kHz, Nordkirchen (100 kW)
549 kHz, Thurnau (100 kW)
756 kHz, Braunschweig (200 kW)
756 kHz, Ravensburg (100 kW)
1269 kHz, Neumünster (300 kW)
1422 kHz, Heusweiler (400 kW)

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Post by Tim Bucknall » 30 Dec 2014 17:06

time to get into Long wave beacon hunting i think!
John, maybe you can be the first UK dxer to log a "lowfer" in the UK? (too much noise here)

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 30 Dec 2014 17:25

Sounds interesting Tim. I have never heard of this. I have had no real success in the past when trying to DX LW and MW beacons, rarely hearing anything outside the UK.

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Post by Alex Cator » 31 Dec 2014 13:50

It will be very annoying when the medium-wave transmitters close down, as, when there is no tropo on FM, I frequently listen to Heusweiler on 1422 during the evenings. I don't think it will matter to me when long-wave DLF closes down, but I am going to listen to its close-down (either from Aholming or Donebach) on the WebSDR at the University of Twente.
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Post by Tim Bucknall » 31 Dec 2014 14:22

was useful to have a // during tropo, but theres so much electrical noise on mw/lw it never works in practise
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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 31 Dec 2014 17:45

I think the South Korean on 972 will become a regular once Hamburg has left the band, in a similar was to Urumqi 1521.

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Post by Julian Hardstone » 01 Jan 2015 18:54

At midnight this morning German LW broadcasts ceased, leaving 153, 177 and 207kHz clear for most of Europe
It is reported that German MW broadcasts are expected to cease in about a year from now
The closing programme of DLF can be downloaded here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/198 ... inuten.WAV

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Post by Alex Cator » 01 Jan 2015 19:36

Thanks Julian! I forgot about Germany having different time, so I tuned on the WebSDR and just heard Romanian folk music (on Antena Satelor) on 153 kHz, followed by some Romanian talking, and some weird music on 207 that I didn't know what station it was coming from. The 153 program was the same as Radio Romania Antena Satelor's web stream, so it was them, and the UNID program on 207 didn't fit DLF's live stream, even though 1422 did. I did miss DLF's switchoff, and I also heard that Deutschlandradio Kultur's frequency had nothing apart from Europe 1's QRM. DLF's Donebach TX had the best groundwave signal here in Norfolk, and Aholming and Heusweiler had equal signal (very weak), even though Aholming was swamped by Droitwich on the car radio a little bit, but I could still here a faint DLF. Heusweiler has perfect signal (perhaps fading in a few places) via skywave (night time) in my area, and Aholming had the best long-wave night signal. Donebach could've been stronger in the night than in the day, but Antena Satelor sometimes went over the top of DLF on 153 kHz. Now I can listen to Romania without fights with DLF, but it just feels weird not having DLF on that frequency, because until last night I had DLF!
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Post by Julian Hardstone » 01 Jan 2015 19:43

I guess they've been there since 1948!

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Post by Alex Cator » 01 Jan 2015 20:10

I just listened to your recording. Unfortunately, after DLF switched off, it seemed like there was mainly static with a faint signal (probably Radio Romania Antena Satelor), and it didn't sound like I could hear Antena Satelor too well. I wonder why Antena Satelor was so fuzzy? Maybe you have a flag or loop antenna that's not facing towards Romania? I wonder how long they'll keep the Donebach transmitter for? I went to Orford, Suffolk, about a week ago, and I could still see the former BBC World Service and NPO Radio 1 (648 kHz) transmitter on the Orford Ness. I've never listened to an Orford Ness transmission ever, because I had nothing to do with radio as a kid, as I was a kid back when that transmitter was in action. I now have to rely on Seychelles (SW 11.810 MHz) to listen to the World Service at home, even though I can hear it on the in-car DAB as it's on the BBC national DAB multiplex.
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Post by Julian Hardstone » 01 Jan 2015 21:32

The recording was made by DF3LP in Kiel: http://df3lp.de/ which is only a bit nearer to Brasov. He seems to use his mini-whip which is oriented optimally for ROU, and he was also monitoring 177 at switchoff

In my youthful SW dx days BBC WS was on many SW bands simultaneously, trying to give a service in the daytime and evening times of the target regions around the globe. The main SW frequency was 15,070 for the far- and middle-East. I can't remember the last time I heard WS on 11m because the band was only used in high sunspot years! 3,955 was very good for Europe in the evening, while on MW the Daventry Third Programme tx carried WS in the early morning on 647, and the great Aspidistra carried various languages throughout the day and night on 1295. Droitwich carried Russian in the early hours and you can of course still hear WS on 198 during the night, and probably on 882 and a few other MW outlets

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 10 Jan 2015 02:12

Peter Kruse reports that January 13th, 2015 will be the last day of broadcasting for:

702 Flensburg (7,5 kW)
792 Lingen (5,0 kW)
828 Hannover (19,0 kW)
972 Hamburg (100,0 kW)

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 13 Jan 2015 14:29

972 kHz is now wide open for DX now Hamburg has left the frequency. I see a carrier on the flag, probably London off the back.

Will be interesting to see if Radio Ilam, Iran comes through now. It will also be nice to hear HLCA KBS Hanminjok Bangsong 1, Dangjin in the clear.

I see the EMWG have updated their list and removed Hamburg already!

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Post by satnipper » 13 Jan 2015 16:25

If only, if only... 972 blocked here by the London Asian (Sunrise is it now?) also on 963. But nice for the boys who have a clear channel.

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Post by Alex Cator » 30 Jan 2015 22:20

satnipper wrote:If only, if only... 972 blocked here by the London Asian (Sunrise is it now?) also on 963. But nice for the boys who have a clear channel.

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All I have now is the London Asian, here in the south-west of Norfolk :( . I think I remember NDR Info, even though I didn't know what it was (I guessed it was DLF back then). Cannot wait to get Korea on 972, which is real Asian. I do get nightly signals of China Radio International (Русский), from Urumqi, CHN, on 1521 kHz, on the car radio.
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Post by Alex Cator » 28 Aug 2015 12:46

Alex Cator wrote: I do get nightly signals of China Radio International (Русский), from Urumqi, CHN, on 1521 kHz, on the car radio.
Sorry, I mean SBC Radio Riyadh from Duba, Saudi Arabia. I'm sure I've heard CRI on the car radio too. All India Radio from Rajkot, India, on 1071 could be heard on the A140 in Suffolk not far from the Mendlesham mast, fighting with Talksport, when I was on my way to the Netherlands via Dover! :D

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Post by Alex Cator » 28 Aug 2015 12:52

NPO Radio 5 from Zeewolde (747) and Radio Maria from Lopik (675) are closing down very soon, I think at midnight (CEST) on the 1st of September. By the way, I will miss getting strong Dutch stations 24/7 without fancy equipment or fading! :(
747 should now be open for a Japanese station which is NHK Radio 2 (JOIB) from Sapporo. There are also dozens of Chinese stations on the frequency as well as KBS 1 Radio (HLKH) from South Korea. 8-)

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Post by Alex Cator » 28 Aug 2015 13:15

Alex Cator wrote:747 should now be open for a Japanese station which is NHK Radio 2 (JOIB) from Sapporo.
When BBC Radio 5 Live close down their MW transmitters, NHK R2 should be receivable from the Shobu transmitter on 693 too. From that transmitter, their callsign is JOAB. 8-)
To be honest, I think the best NHK R2 transmitter will be Kumamoto which is on 873 with the callsign JOGB. By the way, that will be much easier when Radio Zaragoza from Spain switch off their MW and here it would be even more of a challenge due to BBC Radio Norfolk from West Lynn, a legitimate PITA. When both Zaragoza and Norfolk switch off their MW, it is hoped that there will be room for this new Japanese visitor! :D
By the way, when will the UK switch off their MW? For both the Far East, USA and even some European stations (if only, if only, local Smooth from Great Barton on 1251 switched off before NPO Radio 5 from Hulsberg even thought about switching off), it would be nice to see the UK switching off MW instead of offering more and more community/RSL licenses for the MW band! 8-)

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 28 Aug 2015 16:45

I had no idea the Dutch transmissions on 675 and 747 were closing - and so soon! What about the station of doom (Flevoland) on 1008?

Mixed feelings here. While I relish the thought of having more empty channels on medium wave, it's so sad to see these long-tome broadcasters just falling, one by one. "the times, they are a changing", as S Club 7 used to sing.

The most consistent Japanese visitor here has been JOIF on 1413 from Fukuoka. Second most Japanese visitor here has been 1350 JOER Etajima and has programming // 1413, so an easy give-away. 747 may well produce the strongest and most consistent Japanese signals on the band once 747 is free. Tim and I used to hear the Japanese time signal behind Holland when we ran out beverages in Matlock Forest.

I can't wait to have 693, 909 1053 and 1089 free from the dreaded BBC and TalkShite. The next solar minimum should be an absolute boom time for MW DXers.

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Post by Alex Cator » 28 Aug 2015 18:03

John Faulkner wrote:I can't wait to have 693, 909 1053 and 1089 free from the dreaded BBC and TalkShite. The next solar minimum should be an absolute boom time for MW DXers.
That would be fantastic. At least there is a sweet spot in my house where Radio Iasi from Romania can be heard in the night on 1053 (under Talksh**e, I agree with what you are calling Talksport 100%! :idea: ). BBC Radio 5 Live on 693 is too difficult to null ANYWHERE in my house, but I haven't tried nulling 909. Surely I would have Canada on 910 some dawns if it wasn't for 5 Live. :cry:
There is also Absobrute Radio on 1215 and some other frequencies. The worst of all is Rough Radio, which is strongest here on 1251, killing NPO Radio 5's Hulsberg relay (which will close down at the same time as the main TX at Zeewolde on 747), also quite good from Brundall on 1152 which kills Radio România Actualități. Rough is a pain on 1170 too because I would probably easily hear Voice of America from the Philippines on 1170. I have received All India Radio from Rajkot on 1071 on the car radio in Suffolk, as I have said before, but I remember Talksh**e was too strong down in Kent when I was on my way back from Dover towards Harling. I think Britain needs to shut down its MW for me to enjoy the MW DX hobby.
Sorry to say it, but I may have a short little break from FM DX too as my Triax FM3 just broke when I was trying it vertically on the asphalt roof on top of my oil tank. It fell down to the ground and the reflector is bent, which means it won't work anymore as I will probably just hear wall-to-wall Heart even if my aerial is pointing towards Germany. Profondeville 102.7 may be more difficult as may Rotterdam, because of that stupid Heart thing. You must know the one I am talking about is Peterborough (ex. Hereward).
I didn't mean to say Heart......... I meant to say...... FART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:

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