Unidentified stations from 17-07-15

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Unidentified stations from 17-07-15

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Some unidentified stations were received at the same time as Lebanon. 87.8 is of particular interest, but the other two are probably Balkan.

87.8 unid language 1719 17-07-15 https://app.box.com/s/cdq1ixtdvs9wx6auumfkkvnjkkx26r9a
87.7 unid ID 1719 17-09-15 https://app.box.com/s/9mt9pzlutadn1s5igiwpz2jg6p5st52o
89.0 unid ID 1717 17-07-15 https://app.box.com/s/8isz6mc1g2nd7az5erf7s1cx7t1koql4

Thanks if anybody can help with these.

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Another one from 95.5:

95.5 unid possible ID 1725 17-07-15 https://app.box.com/s/l9djuwxhvyb3qonaszhbzux3mas4szci

There is an ID in here. I *think* I hear what it is, but looking for confirmation.

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87.8, 87.7 and 95.5 are Turkish. 89.0 is now defunct Hungarian Class FM.

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87.8 has also (which is interesting) Ö1 from Austria in it, based on the AT exclusive wording "matura" at the very end, in Germany people say "abitur".
this was either Albonabergbahn-Bergstation (Stuben a.Arlberg) tx. or Hahnenkammbergbahn-Bergstation tx. (Reutte i.Tirol) both around 2000 mtrs. high but very low powered
i think this is the real highlight of the clip! look at the power, 90 watts or 150 watts!

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Hello! :) I didn't see this yesterday. Lucky I spotted it just now.

THANK YOU very much for your help.

So I had received one of the two lower power outlets of Ö1? So do they have local opt-outs? I see Wien's 800 watt transmitter on this frequency. This is really interesting if I had one of the two low power outlets you mention above. Could you please confirm this? Thank you.

// I hope I haven't missed any other replies. My head is really cluttered at the moment with everything which is happening in my life at the moment, so apologies if I am not quite 'with it' sometimes. I do miss the obvious and I have become quite absent minded lately.

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Wien Himmelhof can not even be received in Vienna itself, it has such a shitty coverage. must be one of the two others.

It is pretty unrealistic that you received Wien Himmelhof tx. as this is a former TV repeater now used for digital television transmission (SimpliTV) and some low powered city frequencies. the "real" Wien site is Wien Kahlenberg which has Ö1 on 92.0 MHz with 100 kW. the reason why ORF has also Himmelhof frequencies is the same why they used to have Freinberg frequencies in Linz next to Lichtenberg in the past or why they still have Seegrube frequencies in Innsbruck despite Patscherkofel: just to keep competitors away from the FM market. Himmelhof tx does not even cover the whole inner district of Vienna. I never managed to hear it outside town.
height above sea level is only 325 mtrs and their FM frequencies do only cover a few streets inside Vienna where Kahlenberg is in the shaddows.

https://www.aeq-web.com/sender-himmelhof/

when I take a closer look upon the sites (masts height AND height above sea level) it is quite uncommon you heard Himmelhof´s small city repeater.
it is obvious you have received either Stuben a.A. Albona or Reute i.T. Hahnenkamm (not to be confused with Kitzbuehel Hahnenkamm)

Albona site is 2323mtrs high and beneath the top 10 summits of Austria (Zugspitze= 2954 mtrs, Pitztaler Gletscher = 2841 mtrs, Lech a.A. 2348 mtrs and then Albona, - the Tyrolian powerhouse Patscherkofel has only 2247 mtrs...
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albonabahn_II
excellent location. it is part of the international ski arena Arlberg-Lech-Zürs (1700 mtrs + )

as well as Reutte (OT Höfen) Hahnenkamm, this is high alpine skiing resort!

https://www.reutte.com/highlights/reutt ... dergebiet/

btw I visited both mountains maybe I find some pictures of the summits or the view down to the village.

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Here are two pictures of Stuben a.A. / Albona site from my personal archive. I took those photographs on 23rd December 2016.
They show the mountain station of Albonabahn II at 2323 mtrs above sea level. the summit with the station is already in Tyrol!
Isn't that a spectacular location and a stunning view? this is exactly the border point between Vorarlberg and Tyrol county.
The downtilt antenna of ORS can be found on the upper left corner on the wooden cabin, a bit left to the GSM 900/1800 antenna.
From there, Ö1 on 87.8 MHz / Radio Vorarlberg on 90.0 MHz / Hitradio Ö3 on 99.7 MHz are transmitted with power of 90 watts.
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I know this is drifting a bit off-topic, but which would be the most likely tx of Ö1 on 87.7 to be received in the UK via E-skip? The powers listed range from 2 watts to 30 watts. Here's an example of reception, recorded in 2016:

https://app.box.com/s/e5k2trbil3je4klpje0zgbf3j25upjaw

Seems a pretty good signal for such low power!
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definitely Tressenstein near Bad Aussee i.SKGT . it is 1201 metres high.
AND it is the ONLY non-directional (360 degr.) frequency of Ö1 on 87.7
all others are using directional antenna systems

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tressenst ... s_Gebirge)

vy good catch indeed with nice clear signal, almost tropo like

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Thanks. These low power relays at good elevation obviously get out well!
Good DX.

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness »

Thanks for the info PFM.

I just checked back through my loggings as I have often reported Himmelhof on 87.8. So I thought I should check my log to make sure I am not mistaken.

When I tentatively received a very low powered transmitter, I always need to make sure that I can confirm this by receiving at least one other frequency from that same transmitter. In the case of Himmelhof on 87.8, I can also report that I have received Himmelhof on 95.3 - Radio Wien, 101.3 - Hitradio Ö3 and 106.9 - Radio Niederosterreich.

These appear in my FM List loggings in details, with RDS, so you can check if you wish. Unfortunately I am struggling to get all the data on this pathetically slow connection. I found this logging, however.

Es 17.07.15 1728 106.90 AUT Ö2 - Radio Niederösterreich Wien 2/Himmelhof wie 0.4 1247 110 A602 RADIO_N_ Weak

So I thought I was correct to assume that I had received Himmelhof. ???

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Post by Ben Smith »

Himmelhof is not weak, it sometimes appears in my location,when it comes to a good condition from north. (I remember having received it on 87,8 / 95,3 and 101,3)

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