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Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 03 Mar 2019 10:01

https://app.box.com/s/6iwzs5h3l4ndsp2n25atu2wyl7fhzbt0

The conditions pointed to Romania, but this seems to have South Asian borrowings. Maybe it's just an Indian person speaking Romanian, but I thought it might be worth checking as it didn't follow the fade-in patterns of the rest of the DX on the band at the time.

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Re: Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by senderjaeger » 03 Mar 2019 12:09

It is not Romanian for sure. To me it sounds rather Slavic. Bulgarian perhaps?

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 03 Mar 2019 12:16

Thanks Matthias.

Whatever it is, I suspect it is a European language, but very accented, as if spoken by somebody from another country. Those South Asian twangs just made it sound very interesting. Or, being more positive, it could be quadruple hop to India! :roll: :lol:

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Re: Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by Nick Gilly » 03 Mar 2019 16:01

Albanian? What else was coming in at the time?
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Re: Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by PFM907 » 03 Mar 2019 18:55

hi friends and folks,

this is NOT Albanian (too hard), and it is NOT Romanian/Moldovan either (would sound more like a mixture with Italian). I am also sure this is not Croatian, Serbian, Bulgarian or Slovenian.


To me, this sounds like Czech as I understand a few words from this voice over ("zpravy = news"), typical accent ("Prsh...") and the long pronounciation of nouns is typical.

As this is too close for ES, I suggest this could be Slovakian too, almost the same language ("chechoslovakia"), more like a dialect (similar to Dutch/Flemish).

It is part of a news cast or report with o-tone.

Slovakian or Czech can be spoken in NE Serbia, Hungaria and W. Romania as a minority language as well.

Where did you take this? suppose this could be Radiojurnal from Sushice, Klatovy area near the border to Bavaria. however, this seems much too close.

the stations listed in Slovakia do not seem to fit such a news bulletin in serious way without musical bed.

another idea is Radio Lumen, a christian radio with low power operating from Skalité . one frequency tx.

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 03 Mar 2019 19:37

Thanks Nick and PFM.

Definitely not Albanian as there was no familiar "Arrrr" sound. (Think "Jim lad.")

The Es were fairly widespread along quite a narrow path at the time, ranging from the Czech Republic to the eastern side of Romania. You can see my log here:

http://www.fmlist.org/fm_logmap.php?dat ... L&rxin=ALL

The time of reception of this mystery language was 1839 on 01-09-17.

Perhaps Czech then, but it still has some rather unusual Indian/South Asian style accents. That does not exist in Czech at all.

Speaking of the Czech Republic being too close for an Es hop, it's certainly not at all. In fact eastern Germany has been received many times on short E skip.

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Post by Rolands Strautmalis » 04 Mar 2019 08:52

It's Slovak language, but it isn't Rádio Lumen despite the Christian content of the show - "boha otca" ("god father") at 0:15, because it does not match the program of Rádio Lumen at that time: https://www.lumen.sk/relacie/moderovane ... vor.html#7. Maybe it's Rádio Best FM if they have such a broadcast.

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Post by zach_m » 04 Mar 2019 08:57

Either Slovakian or Czech language. I leaning towards Slovakian as the speech in you recording sounds softer than Czech that I remember.

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 04 Mar 2019 08:57

Thank you Rolands and Zach. This fits with the conditions. Is this a local Slovak dialect or an overseas speaker, speaking in Slovak? Just curious.

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Post by zach_m » 05 Mar 2019 00:01

John,

The speaking person sounds to me like a local Slovak.

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 05 Mar 2019 00:13

Thanks Zach. A local dialect, perhaps. Interesting.

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Post by PFM907 » 05 Mar 2019 23:10

Slovakian would make sense to me as it is very close to Czech (and I understand a few czech words in it or let's say words I know from Czech) but has a slightly different pronounciation. Keep in mind that Slovakian is also recognized as minority communication in N/W Hungaria, Poland (Tatra area), Western Ukraine, N/E Serbia and even N/E Croatia.

Two more solutions:

You might want to check if christian station Szent Isztvan Rádió from Hungaria carries some Slovakian broadcasts ?
https://www.szentistvanradio.hu/radionkrol

Also the public Serbian operator RTS has a strong signal on 90.6 FM. Makedonsko Radio has minority programming (e.g. in Albanian) on its first National channel. Maybe Serbia has too?

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 06 Mar 2019 00:08

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Hungarian is one language I find easy to recognise.

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Post by PFM907 » 06 Mar 2019 09:14

Yes it is, and it wont be confused even with its nearest related languages (Finnish and Estonian).
But still this might not lead to the station so easily, as "Hungarian language" might come from neighboring countries.

My first "Hungarian" log was in fact Rádió Maria Erdely (Transylvania) from W. Romania which is broadcasting in Hungarian for minorities.
Some years ago, I received Pannon Rádió from Subotica, Vojvodina. Srbian location, but still in Hungarian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJO19FRul8

So hearing "Hungarian" on FM might be Slovakia, as well....

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Re: Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by RvdH60 » 07 Mar 2019 20:12

I would say the language is more Czech than Slovakian. Definitely not Slovenian, Serbian or other Balkan language.
I wouldn't even be surprised if it's Polish. Czech and Polish sound very similar by ear.
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Post by zach_m » 08 Mar 2019 09:12

@RvdH60

I can ensure you it's not Polish :)

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 08 Mar 2019 09:36

:) Thanks.

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Re: Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by Rolands Strautmalis » 08 Mar 2019 21:30

Dear colleagues, I apologize for the deception, but the phrase I mentioned above seemed more relevant to the Slovak language. It's, however, Czech language.
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Re: Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 08 Mar 2019 22:28

Thank you very much Rolands.

There it is! At approximately 24:45 on the programme stream, it matches my recording. Excellent detective work! :)

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Re: Mystery language on 90.6 (Es)

Post by PFM907 » 09 Mar 2019 18:03

It is NOT Polish (which has many SHHHHH and WSHHH sounds). and indeed, this is no Balkan language. It could only be between CZ or SK, but somehow I sorted out Proglas as the name sounds more like a hitradio. I know it is a religious station, but I forgot about this fact..sorry for mistaking. Their tx is not so far from the SK border however ;)
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