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Sporadic-e received in Spain unidentified

Post by manueljbaeza » 01 Jun 2018 18:58

Hi,

anyone can help me identify this sporadic-e DX? the fm is increasingly saturated in Spain between pirated signals and signals from licensed companies that fail parameters: power, locations, excessive modulation, etc.


The same moment I can receive SR P2 92.4 from Sverige:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMk4qP6w6k SR P2, RDS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfOk8WfzqRI ¿SR P1? ¿vrt Klara?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMNdq3vVeQ ¿Bayern 1?
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Post by manueljbaeza » 02 Jun 2018 11:16

https://youtu.be/xs4rJtGtnuk

https://youtu.be/tmV_dfLyzrI

Received 1 june 19.43 UTC. Perhaps Belgium, Deutschland, Česká republika ...
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Post by Nick Gilly » 02 Jun 2018 12:30

Hi Manuel. On your second lot of clips, the last one on 92.4 is German, but I'd be guessing as to what it is. It might be RBB Kulturradio from Berlin as it sounds like a 'serious' cultural-style announcement.
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Post by manueljbaeza » 02 Jun 2018 12:33

Thanks Nick Gilly!

I tried to listen to the streaming but the sporadic bursts were very short, so it was very difficult to compare between both signals. It is very likely that 92.4 is that, so little I could hear, although I had some doubts.
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Post by pe1etr » 02 Jun 2018 13:10

Nick Gilly wrote:
02 Jun 2018 12:30
Hi Manuel. On your second lot of clips, the last one on 92.4 is German, but I'd be guessing as to what it is. It might be RBB Kulturradio from Berlin as it sounds like a 'serious' cultural-style announcement.
I hear "Berliner SPD" , so you could well be correct.

Peter
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Post by manueljbaeza » 02 Jun 2018 13:24

Thanks pe1etr
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Post by pe1etr » 02 Jun 2018 13:38

manueljbaeza wrote:
02 Jun 2018 13:24
Thanks pe1etr
de nada

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Post by Julius63 » 02 Jun 2018 14:58

Hi
On your clip of 89,9 I hear a german announcement from 1:50 onwards, 89,9 NDR Kultur Torfhaus could be likely?
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Post by manueljbaeza » 03 Jun 2018 18:29

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Post by PFM907 » 03 Jun 2018 18:49

well, that`s an easy one for me (GER native speaker):)

917 = MDR Thüringen, Sonneberg-Blessberg (female voice ID)
901 = SWR 4 BaWü, Stuttgart-Degerloch (male jingle ID)
1076 = Bayern 5 Aktuell, Harburg-Hühnerberg (B5 news bumper)
880 = Bayern 4 Klassik, Ingolstadt-Gelbelsee (Main-Donau-Kanal)
1077 = DLR Kultur, Cuxhaven-Otterndorf (Fehlfarben music)
1064 = CR Region CB, Cesky Krumlov-Rozhledna Klet (Bohemian music)
988 = ORF FM4, Sankt Pölten-Jauerling (Zimmerservice music)
925 = ORF Ö1, Schärding-Schardenberg (ORF ON topic)
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Post by manueljbaeza » 03 Jun 2018 18:58

Wow!!! Thank You very much!!!!
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Post by PFM907 » 03 Jun 2018 19:06

regarding yours 107.7, there is a little doubt concerning the location. seems pretty off-way from the others. I see Hanau would be an option, too. do you think from your experience, CUX is possible? I guess so, at least it is the most powerful tx.

however, 92.5 I do not think it was the strongest one (Innsbruck) which is almost only beaming NW and is more remote. Schärding is not far away from Cesky Krumlov that you also had and is pretty high. it reaches far into upper/lower Bavaria.
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Post by manueljbaeza » 03 Jun 2018 19:14

during this episode I was able to capture several from the Czech Republic, so I suppose they can be from that area. Many times I attribute the location of the most powerful transmitter, although I'm not always sure it's the right one. This is the logbook: https://www.fmlist.org/fm_logmap.php?da ... &omid=2775
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Post by manueljbaeza » 03 Jun 2018 20:26

From Italy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-owIpz4dIto

Local adverts from Vallo Di Diana and Prato Perillo, province Salerno, monte appennini, but in FMList only show 93.1 RAI Radio 3.
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Post by Franco Martelli » 03 Jun 2018 21:02

Ola Manuel,

Vallo di Diano is a large valley between Campania and Basilicata. In your recording you can hear adv of Mobili Trezza https://it-it.facebook.com/Mobili-Trezz ... 321702336/ and Centro Commerciale Diano http://www.centrocommercialediano.com/

The local radio of that valley is Radio Alfa, located in Teggiano but with a plenty of frequencies into the whole Province of Salerno.
They broadcast on 93.0 from Montesano della Marcellana and I am sure that they haven't switched to 93.1 from that outlet.
Does they have a new outlet broadcasting on 93.1?
Or was their signal so strong to listen to it on 93.1 while they broadcast on 93.0 and despite the bandwidth of your receiver?

I only know that I am listening now to Radio Alfa through streaming, and one minute ago I have listened to the same Mobili Trezza adv. :D
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Post by manueljbaeza » 03 Jun 2018 21:20

I think it's 93.1, given that in 93.0 I have no sign, although one in 92.9 from Andújar, about 50 km. Moreover, I was very surprised to see how it covered almost completely the 93.1 signal of Canal Fiesta, from Zújar, about 75 km from my QTH and with about 5 kW (PRA). I think, almost certainly, that the signal received was at 93.1. I do not know if they will have put a new transmitter in the area or they will have moved another frequency that they already had in operation.

Thank you very much for your help.
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Post by Franco Martelli » 03 Jun 2018 21:32

manueljbaeza wrote:
03 Jun 2018 21:20
I think it's 93.1, given that in 93.0 I have no sign, although one in 92.9 from Andújar, about 50 km. Moreover, I was very surprised to see how it covered almost completely the 93.1 signal of Canal Fiesta, from Zújar, about 75 km from my QTH and with about 5 kW (PRA). I think, almost certainly, that the signal received was at 93.1. I do not know if they will have put a new transmitter in the area or they will have moved another frequency that they already had in operation.

Thank you very much for your help.
;)
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Re: Sporadic-e received in Spain unidentified

Post by Franco Martelli » 03 Jun 2018 21:53

PFM907 wrote:
03 Jun 2018 18:49

988 = ORF FM4, Sankt Pölten-Jauerling (Zimmerservice music)
As a frequent/regular listener of FM4 :D , I take the liberty to suggest a slight correction.
The broadcast on air every Sunday morning from 10 to 13 is Sunny Side Up with John Megill.

The song recorded in Manuel's video is Crazy (Noze rmx) by Ornette (obviously I wouldn't know that without consulting Fm4's podcasting :lol:).
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Post by manueljbaeza » 03 Jun 2018 23:19

Thanks!!!!
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Re: Sporadic-e received in Spain unidentified

Post by PFM907 » 04 Jun 2018 09:07

Franco Martelli wrote:
03 Jun 2018 21:53
Sunny Side Up
yes of course, it is. you are right :) lol

however I this is what they call "FM 4 Musik" :)
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