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Re: DX records

Post by zach_m » 01 Mar 2018 16:06

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your suggestion. Paul Logan old website is still available: http://www.oocities.org/yogi540/index.html
....and the new one http://band2dx.webs.com Lots of information there.

I will be working on some simple website design to get a view how the entries may look.

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Re: DX records

Post by zach_m » 05 Mar 2018 19:22

Hi guys,

I have done some work on the website theme recently. Regarding submission, my initial thoughts are:

For TV/FM reception I will be submitting logs with:

- Sporadic-E signals from 2400 km
- Tropo signals from 800 km
- Aurora signals from 500 km
- TEP no limits

Any suggestions are welcome. Also, I pin up the testing website address to my current website. Here is the address: http://records.fmdx.bplaced.net/index.html

I only have done some work in the UK entry, just to show what I was thinking about http://records.fmdx.bplaced.net/country/uk.html
Tables are sortable (click on headline). I decided not to submit reception time and add a link to a log/fingerprint (if possible). I was thinking about three tables in each entry:

a) OIRT DX reception
b) CCIR DX reception
c) TV DX reception

All table will contain ALL modes (tropo, Es etc.) I also created an entry for DXers from outside Europe and a separate entry for interesting unidentified signals. This is a basic theme, just to show what, in my opinion, should be on the website. Unfortunately, I still haven't got any answer from the FMList owner. Not sure if I should give up and proceed without FMList contribution or keep waiting?

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Re: DX records

Post by Sylvestre » 07 Mar 2018 16:42

zach_m wrote:- Sporadic-E signals from 2400 km
- Tropo signals from 800 km
I would have some logs to submit, but I can't proove I made these ones...
DX-FM & DX-TV in Normandy, France : Portenseigne 910 03 02 & Wisi EB-66 on Yaesu G450C.
On my personal website :
my DX-FM pictures, my DX-FM audios, my DX-TV pictures, and my DX-TV videos.

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Re: DX records

Post by daveB » 07 Mar 2018 16:59

Talking to the guy at Moonraker who took my order for an Airspy mini he said that around 1988 a BBC monitoring station received FM stereo from North America for around 20 minutes.

This link describes in brief the work that the monitoring station in Caversham carried out for many years. They certainly would have had decent equipment to monitor FM and with 24/7 monitoring t could have happened. Has anyone else heard of this reception?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-36712152
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Re: DX records

Post by Nick Gilly » 07 Mar 2018 18:30

SpE logs since 2016 at >2400 km:

89.0 IRIB Radio Javan site unknown, probably approx 4000 km 29.5.16 1248 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/4re18oo3w00xlpfs1wc04v5rj4hm5kui
87.7 RDP Antena 3 Pico da Barrosa (RDP) 2412 km 30.5.16 1319 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ebi56sgay2q1xlklho8al7oulag1qib3
97.9 RDP Antena 1 Açores Pico da Barrosa (RDP) 2412 km 30.5.16 1311 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/bahv0stuc5l0x0p5jswwho06zmlafvpc
95.2 Rádio Renascença Pico da Barrosa (RDP) 2412 km 30.5.16 1325 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/mfxt6ofulr053yw1hmtuo74b2bcvtber
88.2 probably TRT 3 Radyo Üc Istanbul 2578 km 18.6.16 0820 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ukjpvvtqusv77jc59jst100yc56q4fif
87.7 TRT Nağme Bolu 2759 km 18.6.16 0826 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/woxej18honlac2pzb2dq19fboix7vdzl
87.7 TRT station (not TRT Nağme) 18.6.16 0856 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/erb0gihuoroqnchv5pf6lxf0qkziz3el
88.2 Diyanet Kuran Radyo Ankara-Dikmen 2911 km? 18.6.16 0845 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/7ak3rw9mspul4oc99mlfbpyjxfxvmj6p
88.0 Rádio Renascença Pico do Silva 2418 km (Madeira) 23.6.16 1124 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ggegiuv5ol7er2uefwwwio14kuqpx5kf

87.5 Dost FM Izmir-Bayrakli 2629 km (presumed) PI 3E99 1.6.17 1902 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/l1gmcit141fsvrayj2c3wtg8saqcbd3s
89.0 TRT FM Edirne-Uzunköprü 2421 km 1.6.17 2143 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/513q3ox9bbats7h23hxz7z3tazj4u0my
87.5 TRT Nagme Datca 2789 km likely 2.6.17 1628 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/7to3hun0ecn7mevb5gnlcpxhe9ftul1n
87.7 En Lefko Ymittos 2459 km 2.6.17 1659 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/vlyusb8dfzam3weg74c0231vful2mmtx
87.8 Diyanet Kuran Radyo likely Aydin 2782 km? 2.6.17 1753 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ko3b3fe42d5okc5peet8t0lng328ladj
88.3 Erkam Radyo Izmir-Bayrakli 2629 km 2.6.17 1755 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/3dwb7nzewbqnxg14emvsezn8wlzpqtfv
87.7 Diyanet Kuran Radyo Denizli 2808 km? 2.6.17 1800 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ksdauwod6hckou1zyosgqqiudjmmmoyd
87.6 KAN 88 FM either Safed=Tzefat 3598 km or Jerusalem 3667 km 2.6.17 1802 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/tb6711mcdcszqs94qlwvllb71btoq73o
91.6 ERA 1 Proto Programma Parnitha ERA 2436 km 3.6.17 1236 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/syf2n1cu01ns8vu7lxneagpz3vh8kgdy
106.3 Radio Awal Yafran=Jefren 2412 km PI D301 3.6.17 1632 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/0epdfa8oj1ece8f6hzvn556826wcl9rj
89.3 Iza'at al-Rissala Aabey 3540 km (presumed) 4.6.17 0845 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/zyybd2v7clm1apcjjqrrneblbxacsq8q
99.6 BFBS Cyprus Dhekelia 3320 km PI FE01 4.6.17 1056 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/u85tg2tos6sq2o5qsqd8451dxu4rtqvk
87.5 unid Arabic, maybe Lebanon? 4.6.17 1103 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/sx4oymh6mcwqhw0zbxmqt9p18ddgrrt8
87.7 Mythos FM Kalamata 2423 km then unid Italy 8.6.17 1705 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/h3reh0wqemnb0ekeu9ogfbkmrcmbw7j9
89.0 TRT FM Edirne-Uzunköprü 2421 km 11.6.17 1942 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/dgmrvrh03lgm6ig4a2h6kwnwwelxxhok
87.9 Like FM Moskva 2606 km PI 7712 16.6.17 2004 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/grps632sxfob8g9a2lbd0roed0pzpx99
88.7 Yumor FM Moskva 2606 km 16.6.17 2008 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/p0awd1ylmjrjqg0wvjquq386ce0cb8kk
87.7 Slow Türk Izmir-Bayrakli 2629 km? 17.6.17 1718 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/x0zpo0tgg5x8h6el35zzk5vy6fa2mctz
87.8 Bayram FM Gebze 2616 km (music, presumed) + Diyanet Kuran Radyo Edirne 2368 km? (prayers) xfading then YLE Radio Yksi Vaasa - Vasa 1896 km PI 6201 18.6.17 1736 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/wn9g35iyxj1p8z1dg8s6t4eckbxnjrgr
87.5 Damla FM - Istanbul Istanbul 2579 km PI 3D00 18.6.17 1749 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/xqwf2q8fq3un5fsab7te6r4r1sxoo445
88.3 Radio Msallata Msallata 2422 km (presumed) 19.6.17 1242 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/tesz0k3o9g0h82x5c57voiei0ujkxoox
88.0 unid Romania then CRI Türk FM Balikesir 2592 km? 3.8.17 1800 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/qjwaiw89x5l2imf9r1xb14egjyyxphrh
87.6 KAN 88 Jerusalem 3667 km (OM talk, presumed) 3.8.17 1822 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/jp73lu4z51bv4n46aehnszgx8bwgwni6
87.5 unid Quran Misratah 2483 km PI 0000 20.8.17 1116 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/g2sqeku17jud9bgncv86k1el4oaydwj8
87.8 Diyanet Kuran Radyo Canakkale 2466 km (likely site) 20.8.17 1701 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/xhr1l9qb43vrmrq4fgqlvd2a284lywq5
Good DX.

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Re: DX records

Post by Franco Martelli » 08 Mar 2018 12:11

Nick Gilly wrote:
07 Mar 2018 18:30
SpE logs since 2016 at >2400 km:


87.7 Mythos FM Kalamata 2423 km then unid Italy 8.6.17 1705 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/h3reh0wqemnb0ekeu9ogfbkmrcmbw7j9
That unid is a brain-teaser to me: you can easily hear the number for sending SMS to that radio (33 89 53 36 56) and the name of broadcast ("tempo reale") but I am not able to find any clue in the net. :?:
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Post by zach_m » 08 Mar 2018 20:52

Ok. I haven't been here for two days, so I'd guess the project get approval? @Sylvestre, please post your logs or email me if you like. The prove is mainly for new DXers. I would say DXers on this forum are rather experienced and I believe they double check the reception prior posting.

Thanks Dave for amazing info. We need to investigate that. @Nick, thanks very much for your logs. I read on Yahoo groups about Iran that you received in previous years. Would you be able to go through your catalogue and post DX from previous years? I will be adding all your logs to the site.

Whoever wants to submit their logs, please post here or email me on srdzk@yahoo.com

Good DX folks! Sp-E season is not too far!

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Re: DX records

Post by MikeF » 08 Mar 2018 21:16

daveB wrote:
07 Mar 2018 16:59
Talking to the guy at Moonraker who took my order for an Airspy mini he said that around 1988 a BBC monitoring station received FM stereo from North America for around 20 minutes.

This link describes in brief the work that the monitoring station in Caversham carried out for many years. They certainly would have had decent equipment to monitor FM and with 24/7 monitoring t could have happened. Has anyone else heard of this reception?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-36712152
Hi Dave, having worked at BBCM, Caversham for many years I think your source is wrong here. I certainly never heard anything about this when I was there.
Actually BBCM was not geared up for FM as the prime purpose of their service was newsgathering from Europe, Asia, Middle East and parts of Africa. The only use for FM reception was regular broadcasts taken from remote receivers in the areas of interest which were relayed back to Caversham via ISDN or standard phone lines (this was before the Internet became established).
Nowadays most of their work is via WWW streams or satellite.
Hope that helps
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Re: DX records

Post by zach_m » 09 Mar 2018 00:18

Tim Bucknall wrote:
28 Feb 2018 12:46
that German one includes only members back then

its missing my 87.7 Canaries tropo from Aberdaron (joint log with Jeff Kitching) and The Peak District National Park in England ( me alone) , both around 2990km

E skip
if you count 65.75 (many times)/72.25 (once) as OIRT my reception of Karamay, East Turkestan is 5973 km


my Kazakhstan reception of 24th June 2004 on 69.76 (not a typo) at 1000utc would be a little less than the above distance (tx now closed)
-that was the same day that produced TA FM in the evening, I had an Unid French tv audio signal from quebec on 87.75 - I remember that was 2100utc because i called dad in to hear it and he was watch the ten o clock news on tv!

David Hamilton Id'ed Canada on 97.1

Paul Logan has logged Alabama on FM which must be some kind of record
he also logged Alberta video on 61.25 mhz at 4am!

then theres the mysterious Mr Derek Hilleard G4CQM in cornwall who seems to have had transatlantic tropo and e skip we would kill for, but because UK Hams don't talk to dxers we're somewhat in the dark.
if someone was compiling a table of records i'm sure he wouldn't mind talking
http://www.g4cqm.co.uk/


John Faulkners Cape Verde reception should be in the "hit list"

theres the dxer in the azores in the 1970's who logged Germany and New Jersey on Tropo

as for shortest tropo , i used to get the defunct Huddersfield & Southport stations on 107.9 via tropo , i suspect the top of band 2 propagates a bit like 2m
for more recent stations that still exist , Fever 107.3 has come in very strongly via tropo at l east twice, distance is 86km
before that channel filled up i could just about detect Fever but my new semi-locals in Stafford & North wales Buried it totally, but twice it came in very strongly

Highest MUF
The Late and much missed Cyril Willis should be mentioned for getting Russian TV up to the top of band (230mhz) 1988 i think
he phoned another dxer who told him it was overload! so he didn't log it!

highest F2 MUF, in the 1979 cycles US dxers were logging the UK firebrigades on 70 mhz

Egyptian band 3 tv received in east Germany in the 70's - no carrier measurement back then, this was a picture on a deaf east bloc tv as wide as a barn door

not as impressive as the above but i briefly saw a YLE caption on Band 3 (maybe E8?) during an extreme scandanavian pile up

Jurgen Bartels Alaska on 55.25, i forget the mode

Meteor record - Mark Hattam,London US TV sound on 87.75

shortest Meteor - John Faulkner - various UK txs

shortest E skip Peter Wilson BBC radio Cornwall received in Humberside (was this backscatter?)
my shortest E skip Hamburg 87.6 786km (Hamburg 87.6 is the only tx i have received by 4 modes tropo, meteor, e skip, & Aurora)

lets keep this going!
Tim,

I will add your logs very soon. Meanwhile, I was searching the web and I think you was refering to this:
A very rare case of trans-Atlantic FM reception occurred on June 26 when at least two DXers in the United Kingdom
managed to identify U.S. and Canadian FM stations. First Paul Logan in Lisnaskea, County Fermanagh, Northern
Ireland, identified WHCF (WHCF-FM station identification) Bangor ME on 88.5 MHz at 1900 UTC. Soon at 2000 UTC
David Hamilton in Ayrshire, Scotland received the Fisheries Broadcast (Fisheries Broadcast on CBTB-FM) hosted
by John Murphy on 97.1 MHz via the CBC transmitter CBTB-FM at Baie Verte, NF. Paul Logan also heard CBC
stations in English (CBVG Gaspe PQ) and in French (CBAF Moncton NB) on 88.5 MHz, as well as CBTR Roddickton NF,
and CKLE (CKLE-FM station identification) Bathurst NB, both on 92.9 MHz. Details of the logs are documented
on Mark Hattam's website.

Previously, Derek Hilleard had identified CBC Sydney NS on 95.9 MHz during intense Sporadic E conditions on
June 15 and 22, 1994. Also Mark Hattam has identified TV audio from WECT Wilmington NC on 87.75 MHz in November 1999.
(DXing.info, June 27, 2003)
Link: http://www.dxing.info/news/2003_06.dx

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 09 Mar 2018 10:19

I amended my 93.9 Cape Verde reception to TENTATIVE. The rhythms I could hear seemed to be in parallel with web streams after the Portuguese opening on 22-06-11. It was very weak and no ID was heard.

I have another tentative Hayastani Azgain Radio 1 from Jiliza, Armenia on 16-06-17. That appeared to be in parallel with their web stream. No other stream matched and I was able to check them all. The signal had faded for a minute or two by the time I located the correct web stream, but the female vocals sounded identical. The time lag forces me to note this as tentative, but I am 90% certain. It would a 100% match had it not been for the delay.

Tim, where were you in the Peak District when you had CNR? I will check the exact distance.

Currently going through my files from July 23rd where I had a band full of Israeli and Palestinian stations. More to com on that soon. Very little free time at the moment.

Mike, I recall a certain DXer claiming reception of 4QD Emerald on 1548 while monitoring MW at the BBCMS. I think he was DXing in work time and so couldn't disclose the logging. I believe this was more than just rumour, but you may be able to correct me on that.

My shortest E skip is 98.7 NDR Kultur, Hannover Hemmingen at 640km. 21-06-15

My most distant E skip in Skegness is 92,8 BBC BBC WS, Baghdad at 4105 km 29-05-16.

My shortest definite MS is 93.9 BBC Radio 4 FM, Oxford at 182 km on 05-05-16, but Classic FM on 100.4 from Bow Brickhill at 145 km 03-01-17 would beat that, however, my notes refer to a Gillingham transmitter being on 100.4 also, but I don't see this in FM List now. Where did that disappear to? Did I make a mistake?

My most distant tropo was back in Notinghamshire with 107.9 Radio Maryja from Suwalki on 22-09-98, heard with ID at the trailing end of a German tropo. FM List puts this at 1589 km, but Google Earth says 1594 km, so take your pick.

My most distant tropo in Skegness is 106.5 TSF Radio Noticias, Muro at 1411km, received on 26-11-11.

Most distant MW from Skegness is 1380 CB138 Radio Corporación, Santiago, Chile at 11795 km, received on 17-09-17.

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Post by zach_m » 09 Mar 2018 23:42

PFM907 wrote:
15 Feb 2018 12:52
mines are not in there, so here we go.



VHF-I (TV East)
93.25 MHz, ch. R 05 / audio carrier =99.75 MHz - UA "UA:PERSHIY" - Ternopil, 300 kW @ ~ 1000 km. (e-skip)

VHF-I (TV West)
189.25 MHz, ch. E 07 / audio carrier =194.75 MHz - SE "svt 1 Västnytt" - Halmstad, 60 kW @ ~ 400 km. (tropo) | QSL!

VHF-II (FM East - OIRT)
69.08 MHz - RU "VGTRK Radio Rossii Adygeya" - Maykop, 17 kW @ ~ 2300 km. RDS! <<MAYAK>> (e-skip)
70.79 MHz - RU "Radio Tosno Plus 70.79 UKF" - Tosno, 0.140 kW @ ~ 1400 km. (e-skip)
72.11 MHz - BR "BTRC BT Radius FM" - Minsk, 17 kW @ ~ 900 km. (tropo)

VHF-II (FM East - CCIR)
88.6 MHz - PL "Radio RSC 88.6 FM" - Skierniewice, 1 kW @ ~ 600 km. (e-skip)
89.9 MHz - HU "MR KOSSUTH RÁDIÓ" - Komádi, 2.5 kW @ ~ 1000 km. RDS! (e-skip) <<KOSSUTH>> | QSL!
97.2 MHz - SK "RTVS:RÁDIO DEVÍN" - Krížava, 10 kW @ ~ 500 km. (tropo) | eQSL! *

VHF-II (FM West - e-skip)
87.6 MHz - IR "IBA Kol Israel 88 FM" - Eitanim, 40 kW @ ~ 2600 km. RDS! (e-skip) <<88FM E>> | eQSL!
87.7 MHz - IS "Ríkisútvarpið Ísland RÚV Rás 2" - Gagnheiði, 12 kW @ ~ 1900 km. (e-skip) | QSL!
93.7 MHz - OR "BBC Radio Scotland Orkney" - Keelylang Hill, 4.1 kW @ ~ 1100 km. (e-skip) | eQSL!

VHF-II (FM West - tropo)
91.5 MHz - FR "rf france culture" - Mont Pinçon, 100 kW @ ~ 1000 km. (tropo) | eQSL!
106.1 MHz - NO "P4 Radio Hele Norge" - Halden, 29 kW @ ~ 600 km. RDS! (tropo) <<P4 NORGE>> | QSL!
106.4 MHz - EN "vibe 105-108 fm Ipswitch 106.4" - Mendlesham, 1.6 kW @ ~ 700 km. (tropo)

VHF-II (FM West - low power)
88.4 MHz - DE "BFBS Radio 2 Europe" - British Kiel Yacht Club, 0.020 kW @ ~ 100 km. (tropo) | QSL!
104.8 MHz - SE "Lugna Favoriter 104,8 Göteborg" - Brudaremossen, 0.5 kW @ ~ 400 km. (tropo) | QSL!
107.8 MHz - SE "MIX MEGAPOL Göteborg 107,8" - Lärje, 0.5 kW @ ~ 400 km. (tropo) | QSL!

VHF-II (FM West - ducting)
87.5 MHz - RU "Dorozhnoye Radio Navigator FM" - Sankt-Peterburg, 10 kW @ ~ 1200 km. RDS! (duct) | eQSL!
89.0 MHz - DE "89.0 RTL" - Brocken, 60 kW @ ~ 500 km. RDS! (duct) | QSL! *
94.6 MHz - DE "MDR SACHSEN-ANHALT Studio Magdeburg" Brocken, 60 kW RDS! @ ~ 500 km. (duct) | QSL! *

VHF-III
183.648 MHz, ch. E 06 block B DAB - DE "MDR S-ANHALT" - Brocken, 3 kW @ ~ 400 km. (duct) | QSL! *
229.072 MHz, ch. E 12 block D DAB - NO "RIKS" - Greipstad / Lyngdal / Hovdefjell, 13 kW @ ~ 600 km. (tropo) | QSL!

UHF-IV
583.25 MHz, ch. E 35 / audio carrier =588.75 MHz - DK "TV2/NORD" - Nibe, 600 kW @ ~ 400 km. (tropo) | QSL!

UHF-V
663.25 MHz, ch. E 45 / audio carrier =668.75 MHz - SE "TV4 Halland" - Halmstad, 1000 kW @ ~ 400 km. (tropo)

AM (LW)
189 kHz - IS "Ríkisútvarpið Ísland RÚV Rás 2" - Hellissandur, 300 kW @ ~ 2300 km. | eQSL!
207 kHz - IS "Ríkisútvarpið Ísland RÚV Rás 1" - Eiðar, 100 kW @ ~ 1900 km. | eQSL!

AM (MW)
1170 kHz - PP "VOA Special English" - Poro Point, 800 kW @ ~ 9700 km. | QSL!

AM (SW)
6195 kHz - BO "VOA One The Hits" - Moepeng Hill, 50 kW @ ~ 8500 km. | eQSL!

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* heard near the Alps in Upper Bavaria
PFM,

Could you please provide reception dates? John, I will ad your logs shortly. I updated some entries today with Tim and Nick logs. Currently working on Paul Logan's DX.

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Re: DX records

Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 10 Mar 2018 00:22

Hi PFM.

The dates are already in there. (But I just noticed I had missed one.)

I didn't include my band 1 TV reception:

CH A3 CKCW-TV Moncton NB was confirmed by the station manager. The reception took place for 90 minutes on the morning of Saturday 06-09-2003.

I also had confirmed 'country' reception of Puerto Rico on CH A6 87.75. Henrik Klemetz identified programme info which pointed to the country, but not a particular station. Sadly, I cannot find that info.

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Re: DX records

Post by Nick Gilly » 10 Mar 2018 07:32

If I included tropo logs of 800 km or more that would take a long time to go through. There would be a lot more than the Es logs above.
Good DX.

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Post by zach_m » 10 Mar 2018 11:32

No problem Nick. It's entirely up to you. You can pick more interesting stuff if you like?

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Re: DX records

Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 10 Mar 2018 20:10

I'm just putting together a list of my own 1000+km tropo loggings. More shortly.

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Post by zach_m » 10 Mar 2018 20:43

Thanks, John. I will be adding all to the website soon. This is a big project. Today I was working on Paul Logan logs and I haven't finished...
http://records.fmdx.bplaced.net/country/ie.html

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Re: DX records

Post by Nick Gilly » 10 Mar 2018 20:58

Actually yes 1000 km or more is definitely a better figure to use for tropo logs:

October 1-3 2015:

101.4 SR P4 Kristianstad Hörby 1115 km + Radio SAW (presumed) Brocken 829 km 1.10.15 2017 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/bmx0es0vec65gjfkzg88llc9ywtqbomo
87.9 SR P1 Örebro likely 1374 km 1.10.15 2041 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/y69if8qkho8e76ob2im9uzn15pimtl4j
92.7 SR P1 Bäckefors (Mellerud) 1203 km 1.10.15 2045 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/6es3lu9rbhd9v4m6f3n2c2qgpkihboh3
87.8 NRK P1 NRK Sørlandet Hovdefjell 1046 km 1.10.15 2058 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/6n4w2uy83hs2zbuzay3dnz4brg1kyppb
88.8 SR P1 Hörby 1115 km 1.10.15 2108 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/bl1fvytcys3u79uax9hzu8nsx7uaucls
88.9 SR P1 Skövde 1252 km 1.10.15 2110 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/bi2gpm0l13rn8uyqltzxk1fszqax4ahy
97.0 SR P3 Hörby 1115 km over Heart Reading 1.10.15 2119 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/xiczsngb5a3twxexir1mxo58ifv41u20
101.4 SR P4 Kristianstad Hörby 1115 km 1.10.15 2128 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ijxh5lg0nkjmsb4g433jgxbxewcqpkm5
92.7 SR P1 Bäckefors (Mellerud) 1203 km 1.10.15 2144 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/mfsfd1ifndrcs1mkxxvyccooteavoekw
94.7 SR P3 Vislanda (Alvesta) 1196 km 1.10.15 2201 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ybssel13t1uc2yfnbxhvhg8aykc3gv49
99.0 SR P3 Nässjö 1252 km 1.10.15 2230 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/enqel9ouuw5oorp4cr56xiytta0qc0c6
90.4 SR P1 Varberg 1104 km 1.10.15 2248 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/2tbjn82a2dt4ygusrk9a1bw8idi6tzdc
96.2 classical, probably DR P1:DR P2 Årsballe 1162 km 1.10.15 2300 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/h2zx5xb3ihaforlzjfreni10accjom3w
92.4 SR P2 Hörby 1115 km 1.10.15 2317 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/1kwgvr24ge361ngo87jevxoz58b5ju9v
93.0 SR P1 Emmaboda 1261 km 1.10.15 2322 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/4olmdnk6trb8u4p3u8rh951x5fhbkr5p
101.4 SR P4 Kristianstad Hörby 1115km + R.SH Flensburg 823 km 1.10.15 2336 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/h56yoqizhjasnrzb793ag2sn8ktrnlqa
102.5 NDR 1 Radio MV Garz (Rügen) 1043 km 1.10.15 2347 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/1vhxi53pxr6ta7e33qtjf2ycy1fc5ab3
88.0 SR P1 Vislanda (Alvesta) 1196 km 1.10.15 2350 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/5ujobhsd4aefpjijlvgn19mqm2shfn4f
101.4 SR P4 Kristianstad Hörby 1115 km 2.10.15 0517 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/lve6qmek4j4d5jgf7mpskroo7emiur9i
101.8 SR P4 Kronoberg Emmaboda 1261 km 2.10.15 0533 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/v43hlt897lt03abin18zkgtpx7ym8m0m
87.7 SR P1 Halmstad 1116 km 2.10.15 0549 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/f48q7ckvb1iyhgh0mzphwcllql3ntuwv
95.4 SR P3 Halmstad 1116 km 2.10.15 0605 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/oixuke2brsz0isn0bgq4druf40xy9n55
87.6 SR P1 likely site Visby 1451 km 2.10.15 0614 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ocl0hzz8ft2uxj93u5zdu38u9s42u5za
92.1 SR P2 Nässjö 1252 km 2.10.15 0630 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/374tis7qzxyt741x82nujo5bw2v3ue5g
92.4 SR P2 Hörby 1115 km 2.10.15 0634 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/3ev2sxz0k6jnlhwmbkmixbuh0chgsoi6
105.0 Radio ZET Gdańsk 1371 km 2.10.15 1617 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/x1qdjacy4ql93s29bps1f5ya8cr22c59
98.4 RMF FM Gdańsk 1371 km 2.10.15 1705 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/fe3zhbks6hxepro5f9fmr7b1khu5pm8n
102.5 NDR 1 Radio MV Garz (Rügen) 1043 km 2.10.15 1718 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/g9ql5nsg76a8wr9vpo8a3rlacpawvyjf
107.9 PR 1 Koszalin 1255 km 2.10.15 1731 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/brmt6qy4zcea215rs17eoui05zdgtj85
101.7 Radio Plus Gdańsk 1371 km 2.10.15 1748 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/7uam9zuprb5kucfb8f312nj5mpcxnipe
105.0 Radio ZET Gdańsk 1371 km 2.10.15 1758 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ez12loizz0t0deu7bar5ze5xdrxqup4t
87.7 SR P1 Halmstad 1116 km 2.10.15 1816 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/kcqxw5piwnrm5c8j438m0tn8709gmvm5
91.2 SR P2 Halmstad 1116 km 2.10.15 1914 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/e10i4n0vimuu31wl51klaix37944krx1
107.9 PR 1 Koszalin 1255 km 2.10.15 1918 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/tavj82mgpa342y5dnj06a6nhd7ni6udm
98.4 RMF FM Gdańsk 1371 km 2.10.15 1922 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/oebdhr6wv4le2y0wxte0nlcaa7kkj125
90.6 SR P2 Vislanda (Alvesta) 1196 km 2.10.15 1928 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/r3mjh9g14dmlji8l77qfdvae7trsk4bl
88.0 SR P1 Vislanda (Alvesta) 1196 km 2.10.15 2000 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/pvq6gmkka7ni12abp8kdv3ar08m316e7
91.2 SR P2 Halmstad 1116 km 2.10.15 2002 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/sao0h3s8jlcjqtovjjlmehe1rqa1kd2r
87.7 SR P1 Halmstad 1116 km 2.10.15 2012 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/tjh7u7i1n5oee64qn3obykf33z8y9dhu
88.3 SR P1 Västervik 1350 km 2.10.15 2217 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/6g2a6q2t62hs4agggvmyal4etesxk24j
88.8 SR P1 Hörby 1115 km 2.10.15 2221 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/9c29rx9gilhw7gspes05mnql610f7djk
89.6 SR P1 Nässjö 1252 km then NDR 1 Welle Nord Flensburg-Engelsby 825 km 2.10.15 2227 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ykm6yxkruaj35arhu3a3u5lp02xq10ke
91.8 SR P2 Västervik 1350 km 2.10.15 2233 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/qkp0rwq6f1pnpe79u6qeom4riytqvpgo
90.6 SR P2 Vislanda (Alvesta) 1196 km 2.10.15 2238 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/xwga5orq23fxztwaxzajvi2xeach4viu
93.0 SR P1 Emmaboda 1261 km 2.10.15 2247 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/bpewc0hdh2koh42brt6u528i00853rp6
95.4 SR P3 Halmstad 1116 km 2.10.15 2251 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/nah9cwjffadbmp5bermkwenb3mzmi42v
99.0 SR P3 Nässjö 1252 km 2.10.15 2312 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/vew7sjk1ommuc3apg8ceh2l19x5dwtjt
102.1 SR P4 Jönköping Nässjö 1252 km 2.10.15 2326 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/ahw6tayyifmf6j29b3r898isl85l26yz
89.6 SR P1 Nässjö 1252 km 2.10.15 2336 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/j0webd47pwqkl6e6pjmbrx92u2bdmxbn
103.6 SR P4 Östergötland Kisa (Kinda) 1317 km 2.10.15 2344 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/vq09fdmjq762zxzk1twl6wc93bot8kxy
99.0 SR P3 Nässjö 1252 km 2.10.15 2351 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/f5upkskkjxh6ygvxmmsaiza04n0rzg66
103.6 SR P4 Östergötland Kisa (Kinda) 1317 km 3.10.15 0022 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/xlyb7dws4ri5ksdo2344edz2mzb0hiyd
87.7 SR P1 Halmstad 1116 km 3.10.15 0029 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/5xhts4418xwypw6d7rl64fubu74cq1ca
101.8 SR P4 Kronoberg Emmaboda 1261 km 3.10.15 0047 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/j8n2rasc4gk66n21ut0si3zth82gc5dg
102.7 SR P4 Kalmar Västervik 1350 km 3.10.15 0058 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/7br3pl9sqr9rqumgrvwg6tufe239x64w
88.3 SR P1 Västervik 1350 km 3.10.15 0110 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/19nmdde27o11nudkskumy31kdrhp43k2
87.7 SR P1 Halmstad 1116 km 3.10.15 0727 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/m69zz4pv4i21o05fow0xfk3mzx3njs6s
91.2 SR P2 Halmstad 1116 km 3.10.15 0738 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/p0i09ax2o1l216nvmie1kqwytwntvckr
89.6 SR P1 Nässjö 1252 km 3.10.15 0743 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/dqikcark78liollz43h404siczxzdyj9
87.8 NRK P1 NRK Sørlandet Hovdefjell 1046 km 3.10.15 0746 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/t9c6zeriyj54rir82qbp1bhvbzsxrfpl
87.7 SR P1 Halmstad 1116 km 3.10.15 0753 UTC: https://app.box.com/s/uriauwukynswjxtsclbx1wip0tjt7k7s

There's multiple recordings on there but it gives you an idea of how conditions changed over the period.

More to come later...
Good DX.

Nick, Whitchurch, Hampshire.

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Re: DX records

Post by zach_m » 11 Mar 2018 09:15

Hi, Nick and many thanks for your logs.

I was thinking about 1000 km limit for tropo, but then we would have to eliminate many new DXers that want to add their logs. 1000km tropo doesn't happen on every lift. More experienced DXers can pick only the furthest logs (+1000km) if they wish of course.

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Re: DX records

Post by zach_m » 11 Mar 2018 10:01

John Faulkner, Skegness wrote:
09 Mar 2018 10:19

I have another tentative Hayastani Azgain Radio 1 from Jiliza, Armenia on 16-06-17. That appeared to be in parallel with their web stream. No other stream matched and I was able to check them all. The signal had faded for a minute or two by the time I located the correct web stream, but the female vocals sounded identical. The time lag forces me to note this as tentative, but I am 90% certain. It would a 100% match had it not been for the delay.
Hi John,

This is what you wote in remarks: TENTATIVE. YL talking, seemingly in parallel with web stream at http://player.armradio.am/ Signal faded once I found the stream. I checked many other streams and did not hear a woman speaking., Tentative and very weak, but seemingly the same woman speaking as per their web stream

This is an amazing log. I will add it as tentative. Armenia logged in the UK!

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Re: DX records

Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 11 Mar 2018 10:33

This is an interesting point Zach.

In my usual rambling way, I have been thinking about this. Stating the obvious at times, but ....

As we know, it can be just as unlikely to receive extremely short range E skip or meteor scatter as it can longer range stuff. Drawing a line might is meaningless to many, but if a line were to be drawn, where would it be? A round number seems like a good idea at the start, but it's probably more meaningful to base the boundary on propagation factors themselves.

I was quite a fan of the 'radio sport' side of things when I used the amateur bands. DX contests were about points and tables and beating everybody else in the lists, but they are a bit of fun and not to be taken seriously. SOME people take the hobby VERY seriously. So are we creating a divide between those who can and those who can't? Anyway, I personally think that the expressions should be those who haven't yet and those who haven't yet but almost certainly will do. This is just me sitting on the fence and looking at both sides, as usual. :)

People have tried to set various standards over the years. When the Medium Wave Circle was in its heyday, and not the business it has since become, there was a term often used called "Super-DX". From a UK perspective, the only stations which qualified as Super-DX seemed to be from the west coast of North America and a couple of countries in South America, namely Bolivia and Paraguay. This was 'Pre-Sheigra' and west coast North American reception was indeed a rarity. Back then, I don't think FM DX wasn't taken seriously. It was all short wave and medium wave.

I think it's fun setting targets for ourselves and making achievements, but it's only a hobby. That sense of achievement though is powerful and highly addictive. We all know, or at least should all know, that being on the right frequency at the right time can yield those big DX rewards. So we are all on an equal platform. OK. Enough soapbox stuff.

For the purpose of keeping records, which I think is a great idea, some kind of limits probably do need to be set. However, if the bar is set too high, few stations will qualify and relevant stations will be almost unattainable. Too low and there will be lots and lots of stations. Thinking about newcomers and encouraging them, using the low bar ideology will mean that more newcomers will realise their dreams and be encouraged. Also, when does a DX catch suddenly become more interesting and valuable? Low powered DX should also be included in the list and these may be from closer to home.

OK, this is just a list of extremes of reception, so my soapbox-political-correctness rambling here is probably unwelcome. We definitely should have a list of those DX extremes and presumably this will be a global thing, i.e. listing DX from around the world and not just Europe, and thank you for going to the trouble to put this together.

I am almost done with my own 1000+ km tropo catches list and will post shortly.

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