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Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 20:43
by Paul_Logan
Thanks for all the kind regards guys.

Someone asked is my location better for this kind of thing, well, yes being so close to the Atlantic but I also have to put up with multiple BBC and RTE outlets plus local stations and I'm in the bottom of a valley. My good directions are south through west.

There is no reason why a sufficiently strong TA opening would not deliver signals well to my east into Britain or even mainland Europe. Look at the paths that open on 6m, is there any reason why the same would not be replicated higher in frequency?

What really surprises me is that there are no reports of TA receptions along the path between Iberia / Canary Islands and North America some of the 6m openings along that stretch of puddle look really intense.

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Franco the distance is 3207 km, so double hop.

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Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 21:01
by Nick Gilly
Interesting. That's less than the distance from here to Cyprus, e.g. BFBS Cyprus from Dhekelia is 3320 km from Whitchurch.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 21:04
by Tim Bucknall
Canaries logging US on 50mhz now
to quote homer simpson "Stay crunchy"

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 21:06
by Tim Bucknall
from st johns it would be 3564km from congleton fyi

edit: Canaries getting carolina on 6m did this happen last night?
https://www.dxcluster.co.uk/cluster/band/6

canada into CNR 2013 ut

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 21:39
by Paul_Logan
Nick Gilly wrote:
09 Jul 2018 21:01
Interesting. That's less than the distance from here to Cyprus, e.g. BFBS Cyprus from Dhekelia is 3320 km from Whitchurch.
Yeah but think about the number of times Dxers in Britain have heard the middle east in the last decade and then contrast with the rarity of a TA signal. That north atlantic path is a bugger, I reckon the path into the Caribbean is even easier.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 21:43
by Tim Bucknall
last year John Faulkner was Mr Middle East ;-)
on a related note,Paul, I haven't spoken to you since i went to the west bank to lecture! check out my bandscan
good luck for tonight, gonna leave it recording

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 22:04
by Paul_Logan
John's big Israeli opening was insane. Nick has bagged some bloody nice ones from down that way two, like Syria. I was talking to my GF today about it all, what a strange brilliant hobby we have.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 22:06
by Paul_Logan
Yeah Tim it's been a long time since we had a chat. BTW look at the 6 m map and the ft8 paths from EA8 into North America right now

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 22:12
by Nick Gilly
Paul_Logan wrote:
09 Jul 2018 21:39
Nick Gilly wrote:
09 Jul 2018 21:01
Interesting. That's less than the distance from here to Cyprus, e.g. BFBS Cyprus from Dhekelia is 3320 km from Whitchurch.
Yeah but think about the number of times Dxers in Britain have heard the middle east in the last decade and then contrast with the rarity of a TA signal. That north atlantic path is a bugger, I reckon the path into the Caribbean is even easier.
Which is odd if you think about it, as the North Atlantic path is all over water, so should be better for reflecting multiple hops. If the Carribean path is easier then that would suggest the Azores-Bermuda high is probably assisting with the paths via long-range tropo ducting.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 22:13
by Tim Bucknall
was CBC mono btw?

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 09 Jul 2018 22:16
by Nick Gilly
Paul_Logan wrote:
09 Jul 2018 22:04
John's big Israeli opening was insane. Nick has bagged some bloody nice ones from down that way two, like Syria. I was talking to my GF today about it all, what a strange brilliant hobby we have.
Thanks Paul. The best I have done with 100% confirmation was IRIB Radio Javan in Iran on 89.0 MHz in May 2016. I found my clip in a podcast produced by the station. Which tx? Who knows? There are loads of Javan outlets listed on the channel.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 10 Jul 2018 10:32
by Paul_Logan
Hi Tim, yes the signal was mono.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 10 Jul 2018 11:30
by dxradiofan
Is it worth trying tonight I wonder... What's the best time to start recording ? I guess 88.5 is a known frequency for TA ?

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 10 Jul 2018 13:40
by Tim Bucknall
i'm identifying every carrier on 88.5 so i'll recognise anything unusual 88.502 is barnstable btw
where there normal euro e's last night?

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 10 Jul 2018 18:34
by Günter Lorenz
Excellent Paul, congrats, you did it again!
Saint John's seems most likely - do you plan to put your log in myFM ?
I guess you would receive more TA if NL was as crowded with txers as the Middle East or Europe. The next strong txs up the dial in Saint John's are on 94.7 and 97.5.

73,
Günter

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 10 Jul 2018 18:54
by John Faulkner, Skegness
Stop hogging all the TA Paul ;) Seriously, well done again!

I will be keeping an eye on the maps a little more regularly now.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 10 Jul 2018 20:20
by John Faulkner, Skegness
Monitoring the bottom of the band just now, I heard an Asian music station fade in on 88.3 via Es. I am beamed west. Probably nothing. Not even sure what the conditions are doing, but there are some 6m TA paths on DX Maps.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 11 Jul 2018 19:56
by Maciek
Continental Europe joins the amazed crowd:)

@Paul
-Congratulations! What a superb acheivement!

Somebody has pointed it out - the distance is shorter compared to others' 2Es DXs. ie. my Iran or Kuwait.
The Big Pond really makes the difference.
We have plenty of arabs in a single Es range, so IRN and KWT blend with it - who knows how many times a 2Es slipped through, unnoticed.

Do you monitor the FM band unattended? I mean the same way JF "downloads" the MW-TA mornings...

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 19:14
by AndyP (Telford)
Superb DX, Paul.

Andy.

Re: TA FM NOW **********

Posted: 14 Jul 2018 21:46
by Paul_Logan
Maciek wrote:
11 Jul 2018 19:56
Continental Europe joins the amazed crowd:)

@Paul
-Congratulations! What a superb acheivement!

Somebody has pointed it out - the distance is shorter compared to others' 2Es DXs. ie. my Iran or Kuwait.
The Big Pond really makes the difference.
We have plenty of arabs in a single Es range, so IRN and KWT blend with it - who knows how many times a 2Es slipped through, unnoticed.

Do you monitor the FM band unattended? I mean the same way JF "downloads" the MW-TA mornings...
Thanks Maciek! All my TA monitoring is done live.

With reception of Newfoundland it's not even the distance which is the biggest thing it's the rarity of openings along that path. I have been monitoring for this for 15 years now and I don't think I have missed one opening in that time. I have observed four such TA openings and two to the Caribbean. In contrast there are probably more than four European double hop openings to the middle east in June of any given year.