Hungary: Rádió 1 Balaton and Helikon Nagykanizsa are off

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Hungary: Rádió 1 Balaton and Helikon Nagykanizsa are off

Post by AMDXHUN » 18 Nov 2018 10:54

Rádió 1 Balaton on 105.7 MHz and Helikon Rádió Nagykanizsa on 95.6 are went off air this weekend.

Helikon Radio has lost the tender for 95.6 MHz, another company won it. The deadline to leave the frequency was 11.11.2018
The extension of the licence for 5 more years for 105.7 has been refused by the Media Council, due the earlier violations of the Media Law, Rádió 1 Balaton was off air since saturday.

Both frequencies future is unclear now.

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Post by PFM907 » 18 Nov 2018 13:27

yes, variety on FM in HU is going down. there is not much left obviously in that interesting tourist area, compared to Lake Garda with 120 radio stations.

88,2 with Balaton Rádio
92,6 with Siofok Part FM

+ few religious stations from the Veszprem area

is 90.6 from Veszprem an option to keep on listening to Rádio 1 at Balatonfüred or Balatonföldvar? even in the car?? i doubt it.

I wonder how the future of commercial radio will look like. why not simply forbid private broadcasting? would be much easier.

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Post by AMDXHUN » 19 Nov 2018 09:49

90.6 is weak and interfering with Ö1 after you leave Siofok. In Siofok it's acceptable, but only with good receiver or in car.
Balaton Radio is on 88.7 covers only the center of Siófok (They have licence for 1 watts only)

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Post by theme » 22 Nov 2018 14:37

PFM907 wrote:
18 Nov 2018 13:27
compared to Lake Garda with 120 radio stations.
Well, that's probably too much! Interference at its best, 0.1 MHz separation, same-frequency networks, 173872629 RTL102.5 repeaters...

It's sad to hear about the closure of Music 89.5, that was the only Hungarian station I liked to listen to (just the music, not the words :D) with lots of dance-focused programming and sets. Why are so many stations violating the Media Law? Were any explanations provided for the denied renewals here and there? Sounds like the only thing left are talk radios... And Radio Maria, of course :D

Just a couple of decent stations are left. Rock 95.8, Rádió Egy and Petófí. That's all folks.

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Post by AMDXHUN » 22 Nov 2018 17:18

Sounds like the only thing left are talk radios... And Radio Maria, of course
If you running a community/nonprofit station you must insert:
40% spoken program, 67% of this 40% must be "public service"
Rotete 50% Hungarian music, 25% of this 50% must be newer than 5 years.

For national commercial stations the Hungarian music quota is 35%.

There no these rules for local commercial stations, BUT:
In the Tender you get extra points for more spoken program and more Hungarian music.

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Post by AMDXHUN » 22 Nov 2018 17:21

Just a couple of decent stations are left. Rock 95.8, Rádió Egy and Petófí. That's all folks.
And Retro Rádió :)

Rádió Egy and Retro belongs to the same owner, Andy Vajna, a friend of our PM. He plans a third station, Best FM for all big cities.

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Post by theme » 22 Nov 2018 20:09

AMDXHUN wrote:
22 Nov 2018 17:18
Sounds like the only thing left are talk radios... And Radio Maria, of course
If you running a community/nonprofit station you must insert:
40% spoken program, 67% of this 40% must be "public service"
Rotete 50% Hungarian music, 25% of this 50% must be newer than 5 years.

For national commercial stations the Hungarian music quota is 35%.

There no these rules for local commercial stations, BUT:
In the Tender you get extra points for more spoken program and more Hungarian music.
So that's why a Music FM can't exist? Little spoken word and little Hungarian music, that's what many people like. They've found a way to keep young people away from the radio - I can remember having a recent bandscan in Budapest and finding 20 spoken stations along with... 5-7 music stations. So boring to someone who doesn't like spoken programming nor understand a single word of what's being said... Anyway, I think national music quotas are just a limit to the radio's artistic freedom.
Do talk stations in Hungary talk about the same topic (politics) from different perpectives only?

bestfm.hu itt a Best FM?

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Post by PFM907 » 22 Nov 2018 21:20

Music FM 89,5 was in fact the only interesting radio station left in my opinion. cant get anything out of Retro FM, old music I have heard a thousand times. Well, Petöfi is not bad but Music FM 89,5 was the best after the (ridiculous) closure of Rise FM. Also the amazing coverage up and down the Danube river was fascinating. During weekends, sometimes at night and during evening hours, house and electro mixes of local djs were played = hungarian music! there are lot of djs and the dance scene is still very active, like Kozmix, DJ Lotters only few to mention. There was a lot of dance music still on VIVA TV HU when German VIVA was only playing rnb music, as well as there was Budapest Parade when german Love Parade was already going down. So there is enough local artists / content.

just a few to mention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIw3qy5dB74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRdmLab_FA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N9F9O65JL0

so if this is aired, you have 50 percentage of hungarian music on!


I wonder why Slager, Danubius, Juventus, Rise FM etc had to be shut down. They were not fulfilling media law in adequat way, ok. But did Class FM, Neo FM? Those were a huge success, obviously. None of them exists anymore.. Hungarian FM is the most boring place you could ever imagine, next to Cologne. Even cities such as Brest(BY), Kaliningrad, Tartu or Kaunas offer more variety!!!

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Re: Hungary: Rádió 1 Balaton and Helikon Nagykanizsa are off

Post by Nick Gilly » 22 Nov 2018 21:25

PFM907 wrote:
22 Nov 2018 21:20
Music FM 89,5 was in fact the only interesting radio station left in my opinion. cant get anything out of Retro FM, old music I have heard a thousand times. Well, Petöfi is not bad but Music FM 89,5 was the best after the (ridiculous) closure of Rise FM. Also the amazing coverage up and down the Danube river was fascinating. During weekends, sometimes at night and during evening hours, house and electro mixes of local djs were played = hungarian music! there are lot of djs and the dance scene is still very active, like Kozmix, DJ Lotters only few to mention. There was a lot of dance music still on VIVA TV HU when German VIVA was only playing rnb music, as well as there was Budapest Parade when german Love Parade was already going down. So there is enough local artists / content.
Gnork really is excellent:

https://soundcloud.com/gnork
Good DX.

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Re: Hungary: Rádió 1 Balaton and Helikon Nagykanizsa are off

Post by AMDXHUN » 22 Nov 2018 22:51

Only Hungarian laguage songs can be in the 50%, not DJ mixes :(
Do talk stations in Hungary talk about the same topic (politics) from different perpectives only?
The talk stations with national/half national coverage are following the ruling Fidesz Party.
Kossuth is the propaganda flagship.
Karc FM is a far-right and ultraconservative station, the listeners in the phone-in program are calling our PM as Leader or Protector. They often airing vulgar style content against civil organisations, opposition politicans, liberal public figures, immigrants, european union, George Soros, etc.
The station's most famous presenter is Zsolt Bayer. http://hungarianspectrum.org/2016/08/19 ... own-words/



The opposition Lánchíd Rádió was closed after the elections in this April due "fincancial reasons" now Karc FM using most of their frequencies.
Magyar Katolikus Radio is religious but with some political talk programmes, following the directives of Fidesz
Mária Rádió is a deeply religious station like in Italy, but whitout political content.


Only the locals in Budapest gives other perspectives:
INFO 88.1 is independent news channel, with talk programmes with politicans from all parties.
Klub Radio 92.9 is the last opposition station. (Ex 95.3)
CIVIL 98.0 is cultural/ethnic station, focusing to cultural events, civil organisations, ethnic groups, homeless people, etc
TILOS 90.3 is an Underground station, also have programs for the LMBTQ community. But NMHH is fighting with them, they are "too free".

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Re: Hungary: Rádió 1 Balaton and Helikon Nagykanizsa are off

Post by theme » 23 Nov 2018 11:38

That sounds sad... the whole FM band is nothing but political debate except a couple of music stations (that may include political content - and should support the "Leader" in order to get their licences). It's sad to hear about propaganda and ultra-biased stations in a country so close yet politically far, to witness a simil-censorship in the EU...

*tunes into Rádió 1 in the meanwhile*
*and reminds of that time he heard programming in Italian on Tilos*

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