Sounds like the Australian ABC News Jingle on 1548

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Sounds like the Australian ABC News Jingle on 1548

Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 29 Aug 2018 10:03

https://app.box.com/s/x9lad9dhf1b834gaxqzf5mryfz7s07sl

Before I go into detail, please note the words "Sounds Like".

I am not sure who this is, but the jingle does sound like that of ABC News. However, it's not quite right. It's close. What I am hearing may have a slightly different musical arrangement, which makes me wonder if: 1. This is somebody else; 2. The combination of a fading and weak signal is making the notes sound slightly different; 3. ABC News have a slightly different musical arrangement of their jingle at this time.

Whichever this is, the jingle is extremely close. My recording compares an offline recording to my own. Listen for the jingle between the end of the TWR interval signal and the start of their opening music. (It's not a quieter introduction to the TWR music.)

It's not Forth 2. It's not Gold. It's not Hallam 2. So maybe Iran? Kuwait? But I have never heard this jingle before. 1548 is either dominated by Forth 2 or TWR in the evenings.

Surely it's too early to have a path from the UK to Australia at this time of year?

Any thoughts please.

Oh yes - please use headphones, though you can just hear the jingle without.

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Post by simbeav » 29 Aug 2018 11:42

Sorry John. The best I can come up with is again, "sounds like" and it certainly does.

Gold London and Forth 2 dominant here and there is nothing like that ion them.

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 29 Aug 2018 15:40

Thanks Simon.

I could do with recording more top of the hours from ABC's web stream, just in case there are variations to the new jingle I posted. I'll try to remember to record more from the web stream.

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Post by satnipper » 31 Aug 2018 10:57

Hmmm. To be honest I initially didn't bother to listen as I thought ABC was impossible. However after reading some R-DX responses saying they could hear nothing I was intrigued. JF has his faults (don't we all :-) ) but a good pair of dx ears are not amongst them. So I listened (with decent phones of course) and I can hear where he is coming from. It does sound like the ABC jingle subject to all the weak distortion and artefacts we are used to on MF. It is obviously too weak to be definite and there are many factors arguing against it being ABC. 1548 is a difficult freq in much of UK and EU due to Gold being very dominant - especially at night.

However it may be worthwhile paying attention to 1548 this Autumn.

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 31 Aug 2018 11:22

Definitely. And YES, I do indeed have many faults. :)

I have scrubbed this being Australia for now after checking all the top of the hour news sessions on the 4QD web stream and there were no special variations in their news jingle around the hours of my reception.

What I did find EXTREMELY interesting came from Mauno. He sent me a screen grab showing the 4QD carrier, as received in Finland. It is quite clearly present on my screen grab too AND just about at audio level. 4QD has a slight drift between 1548.008 and 1548.010, as can be seen in both our grabs. So there is now no question at all that 4QD *should* be possible here this season, conditions permitting. In fact, as you can see, it's already there!

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Exciting times!

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Post by satnipper » 31 Aug 2018 12:45

Fascinating to see Ozzie carrier in Europe!

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Post by Julius63 » 31 Aug 2018 16:49

Very interesting, I see what you are getting at! Tough I had to listen quite a few times.
This is very careful listening very good, I would have "overlistened" it
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Post by daveB » 31 Aug 2018 18:18

Hi John,
You haven't mentioned time or date. Many years ago when I was into ham radio and followed everything closely there was mention of UK-Australia being worked when both ends of the path are in darkness (or twilight).

Not having much experience of MW or following the news - is UK-Australia something that happens 'regularly'
I googled this article http://www.hfradio.org.uk/hfprop.pdf with info on Greyline DXing on page 5.

Noting the comment about March and September (around the equinoxes being the best time) - I hope someone will be able to post a 'good' audio clip in the next few weeks.

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 31 Aug 2018 19:20

I didn't, you are right. It was August 23rd at 2000.

It will be something of a revolutionary catch if Australia is logged on medium wave domestically in England as it has never been done before. The north of Scotland has experienced it, but on rare occasions and even then only on big Beverage antennas.

I saw a few Australian X band carriers a few years ago.

Thanks for the link Dave. I will digest that later, but I don't really know which way to point my flag at the moment. My guess is due north-ish, at about 010-030 degrees. The Hawaiian carrier on 1500 has been noted when pointing the flag to the north.

England tends to lose out a little as our path to these exotics has to cross the north pole, where polar absorption takes place, so Scandinavian countries fare a little better.

As we are entering the solar minimum period, the chances of catching something like this should be increased. Unless the sun throws a few surprises, as it did last winter.

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Post by Tim Bucknall » 31 Aug 2018 19:25

good luck John, if it ever happens 1548 is the best candidate and you're well placed
i used to see the carrier before the qrn problem got too bad
it was back when you came round and set up the ultimate signal monitoring station for me :-)


my ears are ruined by a cold so i'm not trying your file tonight, is abc's news jingle still the violin/cello being rapidly bowed? i don't know how to describe it

ps: when did north of scotland get aus?, are we talking pre 1979 when australia used 10k channels?
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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 31 Aug 2018 23:17

Thanks Tim.

The ABC News jingle can be heard in my file above.

Ooooh! I beg your pardon, 4QD HASN'T been logged in the north of Scotland. I just checked the MWCircle all time log (which I started) and it's not there! New Zealand has been received in Clashmore on 1035 and 1080.

http://www.mwcircle.org/docs/intromwdx/AADXList2015.pdf

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Post by Tim Bucknall » 01 Sep 2018 10:40

You can do it!
Did you record an IQ file or just audio,
If you did IQ then loop the thing and check 558 &720. For the news jingle , if they are present try 576,891,774

Also check 1611 for country & western
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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 01 Sep 2018 11:16

I still have the IQ file. No ABC News jingles on 558 or 720 though. Nothing on 1611 either. Not even a carrier. JOIF 1413 was the only other station of interest.

Interestingly, the 4QD carrier has not been seen since the 23rd.

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Post by Tim Bucknall » 01 Sep 2018 18:17

if you get time can you check 1642 & 1630 for carriers

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Post by John Faulkner, Skegness » 01 Sep 2018 20:55

My DAYSCAN waterfalls didn't come out this morning for some reason, so no waterfalls are available to show these carriers. Better luck next time, but thanks for the tips.

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